Russian invasion of Ukraine

As the invasion reaches the end of its third year, at an estimated cost of a million people, killed or wounded, Ukraine appears to be losing.

In distant Washington, meanwhile, the unpredictable Donald Trump, not famous for his love of Ukraine or its leader, is about to take over in the White House.

It feels like an inflection point. But could 2025 really be the year when this devastating European conflict finally comes to a close - and if so what could the endgame look like?

www.bbc.co.uk

How the Ukraine War could come to an end in 2025

Ahead of Trump's second term, talk is turning towards how the conflict might finish - and what it would take from each side
www.bbc.co.uk
 
jrb said:
As the invasion reaches the end of its third year, at an estimated cost of a million people, killed or wounded, Ukraine appears to be losing.

In distant Washington, meanwhile, the unpredictable Donald Trump, not famous for his love of Ukraine or its leader, is about to take over in the White House.

It feels like an inflection point. But could 2025 really be the year when this devastating European conflict finally comes to a close - and if so what could the endgame look like?

www.bbc.co.uk

How the Ukraine War could come to an end in 2025

Ahead of Trump's second term, talk is turning towards how the conflict might finish - and what it would take from each side
www.bbc.co.uk
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Losing? i see more of a stalemate.Ukraine will get stronger with the new weapons theyve produced and actually the weapons theyve been promised..Hopefully the Orcs will be the ones to fold due to the financial problems.
 
jrb said:
As the invasion reaches the end of its third year, at an estimated cost of a million people, killed or wounded, Ukraine appears to be losing.

In distant Washington, meanwhile, the unpredictable Donald Trump, not famous for his love of Ukraine or its leader, is about to take over in the White House.

It feels like an inflection point. But could 2025 really be the year when this devastating European conflict finally comes to a close - and if so what could the endgame look like?

www.bbc.co.uk

How the Ukraine War could come to an end in 2025

Ahead of Trump's second term, talk is turning towards how the conflict might finish - and what it would take from each side
www.bbc.co.uk
Click to expand...
Telling that you chose to quote that part of the article, but not many other parts which present a much more balanced picture.
 
jrb said:
Ukraine appears to be losing.
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Nobody is winning or losing, it's been a stalemate for well over a year, with tit for tat destruction on both sides, and gains of tens of metres on either side, despite what the bbc would have you believe (about winning/losing).

On one side Ukraine have developed their own new longer range missiles, which they mostly use on legitimate military or infrastructure that supports the conflict. On the other side, russia continues to use it's old stock pile, often to just level infrastructure (military and civilian), both sides are losing military, but one side much quicker than the other due to their stupid tactics, one side has had to import military from another stupid country, the other had had only training help from outside.

One side loses civilians, most people reading this thread will have forgotten Mariupol 2 1/2 years ago, not to mention those who have been spirited away (many children) into russia from the occupied areas.

I don't know the state of the Ukraine economy, as little is ever mentioned, but I can't imagine it's great, though they do get help economically from the west. Russia's is in a terrible mess, both because of their stupidity, and sanctions (caused largely by the same stupidity).

Nobody is winning or losing.
 
jrb said:
As the invasion reaches the end of its third year, at an estimated cost of a million people, killed or wounded, Ukraine appears to be losing.

In distant Washington, meanwhile, the unpredictable Donald Trump, not famous for his love of Ukraine or its leader, is about to take over in the White House.

It feels like an inflection point. But could 2025 really be the year when this devastating European conflict finally comes to a close - and if so what could the endgame look like?

www.bbc.co.uk

How the Ukraine War could come to an end in 2025

Ahead of Trump's second term, talk is turning towards how the conflict might finish - and what it would take from each side
www.bbc.co.uk
Click to expand...
So, to summarise, nobody knows.
 
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