Russian invasion of Ukraine

[metalblue]

If they did it would be the same strategy as Crimea and limited to the Russian speaking separatist self-declared republics. Personnel wearing uniforms without flags and markings and slow awkward annexation.

Agreed. Worked well last time, they just need to enough plausible deniability to get away with it again.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Ukraine intelligence is convinced Russia will attack in the new year.

Russia will invade in new year, says Ukraine military

Intelligence officials claim Moscow will launch multi-pronged air and sea offensive in early 2022 in latest escalation of tensions

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[inbetween]

Ukraine intelligence is convinced Russia will attack in the new year.

Russia will invade in new year, says Ukraine military

Intelligence officials claim Moscow will launch multi-pronged air and sea offensive in early 2022 in latest escalation of tensions

www.telegraph.co.uk

Could still be nationalistic posturing on both sides. Russia needs smokescreens at the moment, they're seeing over 1,000 deaths per day on COVID and no matter how much gas they sell to the EU, the rouble is so low at the minute that they barely make any money from it. Putin needs a situation where a high level of threat remains on that gas supply but a war would stop it completely and there goes the income.

I still don't think that Russia can afford a war, they certainly can't afford a lengthy one which Ukraine will certainly be compared to the smaller annexed portion of Crimea. This is also under the sanctions that will inevitably follow from the west, it'd sink them.

 

[mat]

Amy elections in either Ukraine or Russia due?

 

[mat]

Putin calling Biden tomorrow to request NATO don't move any further east.

Would that be his justification to go into Ukraine in the new year?

 

[Indaparkside]

Putin calling Biden tomorrow to request NATO don't move any further east.

Would that be his justification to go into Ukraine in the new year?

It’s alright Biden won’t remember he’s being called

 

[mat]

It’s alright Biden won’t remember he’s being called

"Mr President. Putin's on the line sir."

"Well clean it up man!"

"I'm sorry sir?"

"Who spills Poutine and doesn't clean it up. I want that son of a gun fired for being tardy!"

 

[Winchester]

Getting a bit heavy now
I was watching Threads on You Tube the other day
1984 and still disturbing
This situation is very tense

 

[mat]

He Said, He Said: Russian, U.S. Statements On Biden-Putin Call Differ Starkly

Statements released by the White House and Kremlin following a video call between U.S. President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin differed deeply, leaving plenty of room for disappointment and discord at planned follow-up talks.

www.google.com

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

I'm guessing that Russia won't invade the Ukraine.

Putin is all about remaining in power and expanding Russia's influence. Should he invade Ukraine - probably a popular action amongst Russians - mass causalities will likely ensue. On top of that, economic sanctions from the West will result; in a few years, Putin's popularity might plummet and he could possibly lose power.

In all, an invasion is too risky. Meanwhile, amass troops on Ukraine's borders, and rattle the sabre - popular among Russians, relatively risk free - and who knows, maybe something in Putin's favor results.