Russian invasion of Ukraine

[west didsblue]

Sadly, both were/are shit at their jobs.Trump was a disaster but currently Biden is worse - Somthing I woukd have said was impossible back last October. Sadly events have proven otherwise.

Don't be ridiculous.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Don't be ridiculous.

You think Afghanistan was anything other than a disaster?

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

You think Afghanistan was anything other than a disaster?

The USA is out of a war that's pointless and unwinnable - with the brief downside attendant to less than optimal withdrawal. A withdrawal by-the-by that Trump was unwilling/unable to accomplish.

 

[west didsblue]

You think Afghanistan was anything other than a disaster?

Of course.
If Trump hadn’t already surrendered to the Taliban Biden might have had some more palatable options.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Of course.
If Trump hadn’t already surrendered to the Taliban Biden might have had some more palatable options.

I'm a centrist Democrat - and am largely in favor of Biden.

That said, Biden was going to pull the USA out of Afghanistan no matter what. Perhaps the timeline might have been better - perhaps a more orderly withdrawal could have been put in place - if not for the previous administration's policies. Then again, perhaps not.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I'm a centrist Democrat - and am largely in favor of Biden.

That said, Biden was going to pull the USA out of Afghanistan no matter what. Perhaps the timeline might have been better - perhaps a more orderly withdrawal could have been put in place - if not for the previous administration's policies. Then again, perhaps not.

The British, the Russians and now the Americans.

No one leaves Afghanistan well.

 

[west didsblue]

I'm a centrist Democrat - and am largely in favor of Biden.

That said, Biden was going to pull the USA out of Afghanistan no matter what. Perhaps the timeline might have been better - perhaps a more orderly withdrawal could have been put in place - if not for the previous administration's policies. Then again, perhaps not.

Agreed.
Following the Trump surrender, the only way the ensuing chaotic withdrawal could have been avoided would have been to send more troops in temporarily to better manage the withdrawal. That would have caused a flare up in hostilities with more US casualties so it was never going to happen. Trump actually boasted that there was nothing that could have changed the timeline and it ended up looking like it was a Biden fuck up.

 

[mat]

Some rumblings Putin planning an all out invasion.

Times Radio currently covering it. Giving Belarus agreement to shut down gas lines if the EU kick off.

 

[1961_vintage]

Some rumblings Putin planning an all out invasion.

Times Radio currently covering it. Giving Belarus agreement to shut down gas lines if the EU kick off.

Had to be a reason for those American bombers fizzing around Gloucestershire.

 

[ultimateharold]

Russia has sent paratroops to the Belarus/Poland border now, ratcheting up the pressure.

British troops helping Poland to fortify border with Belarus

It comes as Moscow sends paratroopers to conduct drills on the other side of the frontier with Minsk's soldiers

www.telegraph.co.uk

Brits are over here in Poland building border fences it seems. There's been some shouting matches across the border, much like those footy lads who jump around a lot saying 'come on then' whilst not actually doing anything.