Russian invasion of Ukraine

BrianW said:
Russia has been invaded from the West twice in the 20th Century. Their 'buffer states' for want of a better word, have been removed. It's not surprising they are a bit paranoid - especially as they are very nationalistic.

These things are not just about reality - they are also about perception. What seems 'real' to us, may not seem real to the man on the Moscow trolleybus. Remember, his media is lying to him just like our media lies to us.

It is a very dangerous situation, and it does not help that we have maladroit fools and nonentities in charge. Matters need defusing, pronto, before we are all blown to fuck. If war breaks out it will be no picnic. If we are lucky, it will drag on for years with millions dead. If unlucky, there will just be one big explosion that will make Hiroshima look like a penny banger.
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Don't worry Instagram Secretary Liz Truss is currently on a mini break in Moscow and has spoken to Lavrov.
Unfortunately on her big moment of reading the riot act to him and probably being a bit nervous she spoke too fast meaning the translators couldn't keep up and proceedings had to be paused
All a bit embarrassing but she did get some photos of herself in Moscow.
 
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Len Rum said:
Don't worry Instagram Secretary Liz Truss is currently on a mini break in Moscow and will be speaking to Labarov.
Unfortunately on her big moment of reading the riot act to him and probably being a bit nervous she spoke too fast meaning the translators couldn't keep up and proceedings had to be paused
All a bit embarrassing but she did get some photos of herself in Moscow.
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Food fight!

 
Someone on both sides needs to see some fucking sense. There’s no way anyone can afford a war between the West and Russia, because some **** on one of the sides will escalate to nuclear then we’re all fucking dead.

Absolutely anything is better than a nuclear war, even letting Russia invade Ukraine and killing thousands of them.
 
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No time for Truss, but the alternative view on this is that the Russians are not simply not getting what they wanted from France, US and UK. Scholz is there next and he has already talked about presenting a united front and a common strategy.

Lavrov flouncing off isn’t exactly a good look from a Russian perspective.
 
BobKowalski said:
No time for Truss, but the alternative view on this is that the Russians are not simply not getting what they wanted from France, US and UK. Scholz is there next and he has already talked about presenting a united front and a common strategy.

Lavrov flouncing off isn’t exactly a good look from a Russian perspective.
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You're probably right, but it's testament to Truss general idiocy that it's equally plausible that we're as likely to be a laughing stock as we are obdurate negotiators.
 
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