Russian invasion of Ukraine

Tuearts right boot said:
This sounds like it's going well, almost too well, the ruskies aren't sucking them in to surprise them are they ?? I would assume the Ukraines are more than well aware of this.
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There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that is the case, based on the shambolic performance so far.
 
Tuearts right boot said:
This sounds like it's going well, almost too well, the ruskies aren't sucking them in to surprise them are they ?? I would assume the Ukraines are more than well aware of this.
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They are leaving behind loads of equipment in this retreat. If it is meant to be a trick it’s not a very well thought out one
 
117 M34 said:
Is the Ukrainian plan to take Donetsk and Mariupol areas and split the Russians onto 2 groups?
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I'd suggest that would be a good plan (as long as logistics can support the long arc of supply).

Having drawn a large portion of the 'elite' russian forces and others to the Kherson region by disinformation, if the russian supply lines can be cut by getting to the Black sea coast at Mariupol and then turning/advancing west, then all the russians west of that cut ... are cut-off effectively.

The russians around the Zapo nuclear station (top right of yellow area, to right of large blue river - see below) are trapped, and can only retreat/fight through via Crimea.
The russians around Kherson are trapped and can only retreat via Crimea.

The pinch point at the top of Crimea (if you look at a better detailed map - ha! - there's only narrow bits of land joining the rest of Ukraine to Crimea), would become a kill/surrender zone as the russians try and retreat (if they are ordered to...).

The Kerch bridge would then become another massive pinch point for the forces in Crimea + any of the retreating forces that make it.

So approx:
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Yellow: under threat russian forces
Red arrows: possible Ukrainian advances
Purple crosses: pinch points.


Edit: @SPIDERBOY Seems to indicate that Mariupol is the target :-)


edit2: If Russia gets out of Crimea, I doubt they'd be able (within lifetimes) to get back in, as Ukraine will festoon the Crimea coast with anti-ship missiles, so any sea-borne invasion would be wiped out. An airborne invasion - would end in a similar fashion. Putin, if the war continues as it is, has just from a military perspective effectively put a highly sophisticated determined armed force directly on his border for the 1st time since the cold war - all by his own actions. Lost a large portion of control of the Black sea , bottled up his ships/ports to the Sea of Azov (the Kerch pinch point). Reduced his elite troops and elite weaponary to fractions of it's previous strength. Wrecked the officer corps of all 3 armed services belief in their commander's and commander in chief.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
He said you told us they would not refuse to serve and fight.

lol.
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No, I didn’t. Three times now he has taken words I used about a particular set of people back in Russia and pretended they were about someone else. He is both intellectually dishonest and stupid. He has done this to avoid answering my question challenging his assertion that people back in Russia are by definition supporting Putin unless they leave. He gaslights victims of the regime (such as the homeless being rounded up) which is pretty disgusting.
 
Bilboblue said:
Russian Su-34 downed this morning, looks like they shot down their own aircraft.

It gets better and better!
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Apparently, they are having difficulty identifying which aircraft are which, hence the reluctance to put planes in the sky.
 
Bilboblue said:
I love these videos. I feel a huge sense of happiness, but tinged with sadness at them.
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One woman described how the fascist rabble, as she termed them, stole her cutlery and the shoes off a pensioners feet. Forks and spoons are treasure.
 
blueparrot said:
Do any other major news sites have more detailed maps then ? Or is it just BBC that aren’t showing details you want ? As far as I can see the maps on Sky and the BBC look pretty similar.
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The bbc maps up until today were unchanged for weeks e.g. showing Russian “advances”. They have caught up a bit now.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
They are leaving behind loads of equipment in this retreat. If it is meant to be a trick it’s not a very well thought out one
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Yeah, abandoned kit gives them away as just running.
Will they fight back at some stage? Can they fight back?
Some strong resistance from certain Russian units is reported.
 
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