Russian invasion of Ukraine

[grunge]

They will if there's ever a time in the future when NATO doesn't include the Americans.

In that situation he could and would take the piss. Britain and France's 8 subs carrying nuke's, is only a small deterrent. You honestly think we'd use them if he attacked the Baltic's or Poland?

We also don't have a tactical nuke deterrent, so what would our response be if he used them?

Fire the big boys? No chance!

Even without the US nato is enough to take on Russia in a conventional war. At this point Poland alone would walk all over them.

If the Us can block the use of there hardware by NATO states it’s very different.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

A year from now there won't be a Ukraine. The only question is if the US just stops aid for Ukraine or if we actually send troops to support Russia.

Support Russia?

 

[grunge]

The world has always been full of dictators causing problems around the world, but those problems haven’t spilled out into a possible world war.

The Cuban Missile crisis.
America v North Vietnam.(China)
Isreal v Egypt.
Iraq v America and the UK.
Israel v Iran and it’s proxies.
Russia v Ukraine.
Etc.

Before the war started in ernest, Russia already controlled parts of Ukraine. The war was started by Putin to try and get the whole of Ukraine under Russian control.

How many of those dictators had actively stated they want to take over more counties?

Putin’s openly stated that he wants to “return sovereignty to Europe”, and I believe he has also stated he wants the old USSR borders back, if it wasn’t him it was his cronies.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Bollocks and there is zero need for US troops, give Ukraine troops the weapons they need and let them off the leash, this war would’ve been over a year ago.

Assuming that @buckshot was being serious, you've misread his statement - it reads that Trump will abandon Ukraine (essentially), although I think even he knows that supporting Russia would a tough one!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Seems like Biden has said the missiles can only be used arround the Kursk area. :-(

 

[East Level 2]

Don’t you get it? The **** will never be happy. He’ll always want more. No matter how much he has.

Two years ago I'd have agreed with that, but the resistance shown by Ukraine means he might have to settle for any small victory in order to save face.
We'll know whether he wields any power over Trump in the first six months of his presidency.

 

[Scottyboi]

Putin won’t attack NATO.

Putin wants Ukraine.

If Putin eventually gets Ukraine, he will be happy.

O shit we have putins PA here who knows exactly what he wants and doesn't want.

 

[Scottyboi]

A year from now there won't be a Ukraine. The only question is if the US just stops aid for Ukraine or if we actually send troops to support Russia.

Bollocks.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Bollocks and there is zero need for US troops, give Ukraine troops the weapons they need and let them off the leash, this war would’ve been over a year ago.

If they get those weapons and fail to accomplish their goals, Russia wouldn't have any interest in peace talks as they would be very bullish and confident to take all that's on the table, if that happens then the US (and most likely the UK) would have to send troops in. That's not something anyone wants

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The UK and France I hope so