Russian invasion of Ukraine

BlueAnorak said:
Putin is praying that Trump come up with tge goods quickly. Because Russia is in a bad way.
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It is the MAIN reason Trump has been saying this peace needs to happen ASAP. It has nothing to do with Trump wanting to save lives. The last thing Trump wants is the Ukraine to get the upper hand.

It's a race against the Russian economy collapsing, and aid to the Ukraine running out. Europe just need to up support for a little longer.
Releasing the frozen Russian money could fund this.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Putin is praying that Trump come up with tge goods quickly. Because Russia is in a bad way.
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Just feel that has been repeated for years now and never actually happened, they control 20% and now have America in their pocket - I’m to pessimistic to believe Russia are really in a bad way and close to collapsing.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Just feel that has been repeated for years now and never actually happened, they control 20% and now have America in their pocket - I’m to pessimistic to believe Russia are really in a bad way and close to collapsing.
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The Russian have tight control on the release of information about their economy. They have total control of the media and public offices.
I agree that it has been a false hope for a while that they are in trouble.

However, eventually, no amount of spin/lying or budgetary tricks can cover the truth.
Very respected economists are now saying the same. Russia is in trouble.
The problem Russia has that to cover the problems have meant they haven't been dealt with. Therefore an economic collapse can be very sudden and massive.

We will only know the truth as and when it happens. (if it happens at all)
 
I've followed this thread almost religiously for nearly 3 years, more in hope than expectation that somehow the tide would start to change. I've marvelled at how, against all odds, Ukraine has fought and survived- more than just survived, stemmed the flow of a vicious oppressor and fought back valiantly, never giving up. It now absolutely sickens me how the US has turned against Ukraine and betrayed them. A fair few people on here use the C- word gratuitously, which I have no problem with, but it's a word I use very rarely, if at all. Ordinarily I'd never ever even consider using it on a public forum such as this. However, there is no other word that I can think of that adequately describes Trump other than a complete and utter ****!
 
BlueRodent said:
I've followed this thread almost religiously for nearly 3 years, more in hope than expectation that somehow the tide would start to change. I've marvelled at how, against all odds, Ukraine has fought and survived- more than just survived, stemmed the flow of a vicious oppressor and fought back valiantly, never giving up. It now absolutely sickens me how the US has turned against Ukraine and betrayed them. A fair few people on here use the C- word gratuitously, which I have no problem with, but it's a word I use very rarely, if at all. Ordinarily I'd never ever even consider using it on a public forum such as this. However, there is no other word that I can think of that adequately describes Trump other than a complete and utter ****!
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Can't argue with that.
 
Given the way the war in Ukraine has gone, surely one of the cheapest and most effective way of boosting the UKs defence capability is to build and aquire thousands of drones. Both the kamikaze armed type and the more advanced surveillance type. You would think the MOD, BAE Systems and others would be all over this.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Given the way the war in Ukraine has gone, surely one of the cheapest and most effective way of boosting the UKs defence capability is to build and aquire thousands of drones. Both the kamikaze armed type and the more advanced surveillance type. You would think the MOD, BAE Systems and others would be all over this.
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If their not, it would need to be under a single source UOR procurement process for expediancy. Even then, if we are designing from scratch, could still take ages.

Fingers crossed we are on top of this already
 
mosssideblue said:
If their not, it would need to be under a single source UOR procurement process for expediancy. Even then, if we are designing from scratch, could still take ages.

Fingers crossed we are on top of this already
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Again, the Ukraine podcast the other day was a great and informative listen and there were a few things that really informed me
Drones and new battlefield tech
The Ukranians are at the forefront of this. They literally have people working in their own garages inventing stuff, sending it to the front lines and it's tested in a matter of days. The engineer knows immediately if it's effective and can make alterations and improvements straight away

If ruSSia wins and takes Ukraine, not only does it inherit a 100,000 strong battle hardened army, it also takes over the very capable Ukranian arms factories, the workforce, scientists, plus the extremely innovative and independent developers
Europe needs to dig deep now, or it will have an even more dangerous foe on the doorstep
 
dickie davies said:
Again, the Ukraine podcast the other day was a great and informative listen and there were a few things that really informed me
Drones and new battlefield tech
The Ukranians are at the forefront of this. They literally have people working in their own garages inventing stuff, sending it to the front lines and it's tested in a matter of days. The engineer knows immediately if it's effective and can make alterations and improvements straight away

If ruSSia wins and takes Ukraine, not only does it inherit a 100,000 strong battle hardened army, it also takes over the very capable Ukranian arms factories, the workforce, scientists, plus the extremely innovative and independent developers
Europe needs to dig deep now, or it will have an even more dangerous foe on the doorstep
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Cannot see that ever happening
 
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