Russian invasion of Ukraine

[tregyblue61]

The tightening of sanctions that Trump recently announced takes place now. China and India expected to stop buying Russian oil. This will cause major disruption to Russia.
I don’t really understand how Trump squares the circle of support for Putin’s peace policy (Russia gets everything) while tightening sanctions. A collapse of the Russian economy helps Ukraine. Russian oil currently selling at 36 dollars a barrel against a Brent crude price of 64.

Brent crude price continues to drop ($61.30 now) yet the price at the pump continues to rise: gone up 5p on diesel and petrol in the last week. Hmmmmm.......

 

[pepguardiola'smoustache]

"I will end this war in 24 hours."




"I was being sarcastic."


sarcasm:
noun
1 an often ironical expression of scorn or contempt.
2 the use of such an expression.
3 its bitter, contemptuous quality.
ETYMOLOGY: 16c: from Latin sarcasmus, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear the flesh.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Imagine China telling the USA how many troops it can have in its armed forces! Get fucked Trump and Putin

 

[kaz7]

I would go gay for Ursula, what a women she is

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I would go gay for Ursula, what a women she is

A remarkable woman.

 

[dickie davies]

I would go gay for Ursula, what a women she is

A remarkable woman.

I think she's been very impressive, but the Germans were glad to shift her to the European Parliament as she wasn't well thought of at all within the German government

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think she's been very impressive, but the Germans were glad to shift her to the European Parliament as she wasn't well thought of at all within the German government

Checked her Wiki page out earlier and she’s led a very full and impressive life, and had seven kids to boot!

 

[blueinsa]

Checked her Wiki page out earlier and she’s led a very full and impressive life, and had seven kids to boot!

Strict no tv in the bedroom type then?

 

[mrcunny]

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

When this is over, the process of decoupling from economic interaction with Russia should continue, not be reversed.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

"I will end this war in 24 hours."




"I was being sarcastic."


sarcasm:
noun
1 an often ironical expression of scorn or contempt.
2 the use of such an expression.
3 its bitter, contemptuous quality.
ETYMOLOGY: 16c: from Latin sarcasmus, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear the flesh.

Looks like his plan to end the war within 24 hours was to get given Putin's terms and end game, call Zelensky over to the White House at the end of February and tell him that is what's happening, get told in no uncertain terms to get fucked, wait 9 months and do the exact same thing again but in public through the press. Genius. Not.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Ukraine been told they have to hold elections if a deal is struck, again why shoukd a democracy be told by a dictatorship when to hold elections. Putin hoping to put in a puppet I suppose. Also told by USA you can only have 600k in the forces even in war, so that means you have to wait until 1 dies before recruiting. I’ve never heard such laughable bullshit, these are usually conditions given to the aggressor in losing nit the ones been attacked.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ukraine been told they have to hold elections if a deal is struck, again why shoukd a democracy be told by a dictatorship when to hold elections. Putin hoping to put in a puppet I suppose. Also told by USA you can only have 600k in the forces even in war, so that means you have to wait until 1 dies before recruiting. I’ve never heard such laughable bullshit, these are usually conditions given to the aggressor in losing nit the ones been attacked.

I trust Zelensky to get this right, and assuming the votes are counted correctly then there is zero chance of a Russian puppet being elected. I suspect Zelensky won’t stand in any election and the winner will be a hawk towards Russia.

The rules of engagement that may have applied in 2022, have been blown to smithereens by Putin.

 

[cleavers]

Ukraine been told they have to hold elections if a deal is struck, again why shoukd a democracy be told by a dictatorship when to hold elections.

I said this a couple of days ago, but if there is a deal, the Ukraine constitution dictates there must be an election, it also says there can't be one during "war", so an election is well overdue, putin knows this, trump knows this, and Zelensky knows this.

If there is "peace" there must be an election.

There is also the question about an election of the people in occupied areas of Ukraine, how does that work ?

 

[dickie davies]

I said this a couple of days ago, but if there is a deal, the Ukraine constitution dictates there must be an election, it also says there can't be one during "war", so an election is well overdue, putin knows this, trump knows this, and Zelensky knows this.

If there is "peace" there must be an election.

And Zelenskyy has said that he won't stand in the next election

 

[cleavers]

And Zelenskyy has said that he won't stand in the next election

I hadn't read that, but I'm sure it won't be a russian puppet elected after all that has gone on.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

And Zelenskyy has said that he won't stand in the next election

Has he? Missed that, although I’m not surprised. The last four years have visibly aged him.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I hadn't read that, but I'm sure it won't be a russian puppet elected after all that has gone on.

Anyone with remotely pro-Russian sentiments hasn’t got a chance, unless egregious cheating goes on, in which case they’ll be assassinated in short order imo and there will be widespread insurrection and the attacks on Russian energy assets will resume.

 

[cleavers]

Anyone with remotely pro-Russian sentiments hasn’t got a chance, unless egregious cheating goes on, in which case they’ll be assassinated in short order imo and there will be widespread insurrection and the attacks on Russian energy assets will resume.

Hopefully.

 

[Eebo]

Just listened to what the BBC had to say and there was no mention of any details, no mention that this was a Russian proposal not a peace plan, no mention that Ukraine was being asked to give Russia territory that it doesn't control, no mention of the last time Ukraine signed an agreement with Russia backed by America and gave up its nukes. Disgraceful coverage.

All the BBC were interested in reporting was Trump and how spoke to Zelensky, as if Trump being a prick was 'news,. It really is just a story, no effort to explain or educate.

Not fit for purpose. Defund them now - get rid of the license fee.