Safe Standing: Rail Seating in South Stand

Preparation for rail seating seems to have been going on for a while. I saw there are 'pockets' in the concrete, presumably to take the posts for the rail seating, round in 119, so quite a bit round from SS.
Talking about segregation of away fans: I seem to recall that the new Spurs stadium spread us out from behind the goal right round almost to the half-way line, but all on the lower level. That spreads out the fans so that there is a time lapse when someone starts singing. If you condense fans, like we do in the SS corner over three tiers, it's easier to get songs going and create an intense atmosphere.
 
EddieR said:
Preparation for rail seating seems to have been going on for a while. I saw there are 'pockets' in the concrete, presumably to take the posts for the rail seating, round in 119, so quite a bit round from SS.
Talking about segregation of away fans: I seem to recall that the new Spurs stadium spread us out from behind the goal right round almost to the half-way line, but all on the lower level. That spreads out the fans so that there is a time lapse when someone starts singing. If you condense fans, like we do in the SS corner over three tiers, it's easier to get songs going and create an intense atmosphere.
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First time time I’ve ever heard the opinion that fans spread over 3 tiers creates a better atmosphere than fans in 1 tier.
 
Centurions said:
What are the figures for away fans? If it's around the 5,000 mark that would make sense with them in tier 1 in the SS and the home safe standing in the new North stand.
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For league games it's 10% of capacity or 3,000, so someone like Bournemouth only has to give circa 1,100 seats and not 3k. We give 3k and not 5.5k
 
Didsbury Dave said:
That's exactly right. They need to bite the bullet. They missed a massive chance when the new SS upper tier opened but it isn't too late if they go for it in one hit.

A better atmosphere helps the team, but it's a lot more than that. When I was a kid what I loved about football most was the noise, the singing, the agression. That's what hooks kids in. The truth is we are still not getting enough kids to support City. There's more, but Liverpool are getting more than us in the non-football towns. An Etihad voice, a roar, an identity, a Kippax will give them something to be proud of.

There are thousands of people in that stadium who would make more noise if they had a "leader" to follow. One singing end. It would be better on the top tier for acoustic reason, which is why they missed an open goal 5 years ago, but it could be in this rail seating area if they moved the away fans up to the top tiers (or elsewehere) and pushed it hard, allowing 1894 to be right at the back, centre of it as leaders.
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The regs say that clubs must give away support pitchside seating (of course the rags and Newcastle both get away with that) GMP want the away support in the South Stand so there's far less chance of aggro around the stadium and the club is obviously very reluctant to move the family stand next to the away supporters

Personally I think the away supporters should have been accommodated in the south/east stand corner
The issue now is that City have invested into a corporate area (Joe's bar or something) so it seems pretty improbable

As PB says, the club needs to make a decision on the whole stadium and when it does, it will piss a certain amount of people off, it always does, but it needs to be done .......



 
I'm still interested to see how any changes to entry to the stadium is managed when we can go back as supporters. I for one, share a SC in the SS (Not in my name) and with potential track & trace implementation i'm not even sure if i'm going to be able to use the card. Must be a potential issue for almost every club and it's supporters.
 
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