Saint George of England.

All I know about this stuff is. we flew 4 saints banners during the saxon times and the raven banner of the danelaw.

After the norman conquest the same banners were still used up until the second crusade for any military action on these shores.

When the second crusade began the kingdom of Genoa controlled the mediteranian and the only way our ships could gain passage to the holy land for knights was to pay homage to them by flying their emblem, the cross of st george.
From then on English ships would use it and Edward the 2nd also adopted it for his banner men.

The first time English soldiers used it was after it was noticed the Scottish kings Archers would wear a st andrew patch on their sleves and so England adopted the practice.

Generally it was a military and royal banner most of the public had no asociattion with it, until the empire was growing and even then the union flag was more prominent with the george cross still a military and maratime banner.


On an aside the cross is not the actuual flag of st george, the flag of st george is a red flag with a white motif of him slaying the dragon, and is only used presently still by Moscow as he is the patron saint of the city


tbf he is patron saint of shitloads of places he has fuck all to do with, especially in Italy and eastern europe
 
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All I know about this stuff is. we flew 4 saints banners during the saxon times and the raven banner of the danelaw.

After the norman conquest the same banners were still used up until the second crusade for any military action on these shores.

When the second crusade began the kingdom of Genoa controlled the mediteranian and the only way our ships could gain passage to the holy land for knights was to pay homage to them by flying their emblem, the cross of st george.
From then on English ships would use it and Edward the 2nd also adopted it for his banner men.

The first time English soldiers used it was after it was noticed the Scottish kings Archers would wear a st andrew patch on their sleves and so England adopted the practice.

Generally it was a military and royal banner most of the public had no asociattion with it, until the empire was growing and even then the union flag was more prominent with the george cross still a military and maratime banner.


On an aside the cross is not the actuual flag of st george, the flag of st george is a red flag with a white motif of him slaying the dragon, and is only used presently still by Moscow as he is the patron saint of the city


tbf he is patron saint to hotloads of places he has fuck all to do with, especially in Italy and eastern europe
Basically.
 
He was Turkish and never came to England apparently. A bit like the Royal Family being Germans.
The English are descended from German tribes, Angles, Saxons and Jutes. 'England' is derived from 'Angleland or more accurately Ængleland.

And St George wasn't Turkish, he was Greek. Turkey didn't exist back then and the Ottomans didn't even invade the region until 1000 years later.
 
The English are descended from German tribes, Angles, Saxons and Jutes. 'England' is derived from 'Angleland or more accurately Ængleland.

And St George wasn't Turkish, he was Greek. Turkey didn't exist back then and the Ottomans didn't even invade the region until 1000 years later.
Both good at Kebabs though so will do for me.
 
The English are descended from German tribes, Angles, Saxons and Jutes. 'England' is derived from 'Angleland or more accurately Ængleland.

And St George wasn't Turkish, he was Greek. Turkey didn't exist back then and the Ottomans didn't even invade the region until 1000 years later.
Englands first patron saint was St Edmund, from Anglo Saxon times,he was the saint until the French,Normans gave us George,tickles me how the english don't even know basic stuff like that in their history,Micheal Wood,a wotld renowned historian ( manc born but a rag ) taught me all off this way back in the 1980's in his 'in search of England " series on the BBC
 
Englands first patron saint was St Edmund, from Anglo Saxon times,he was the saint until the French,Normans gave us George,tickles me how the english don't even know basic stuff like that in their history,Micheal Wood,a wotld renowned historian ( manc born but a rag ) taught me all off this way back in the 1980's in his 'in search of England " series on the BBC


Richard the Lionheart brought St George back from the crusades, that however isn't important because Edmund isn't the patron Saint of England anymore.
 

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