urban genie
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All I know about this stuff is. we flew 4 saints banners during the saxon times and the raven banner of the danelaw.
After the norman conquest the same banners were still used up until the second crusade for any military action on these shores.
When the second crusade began the kingdom of Genoa controlled the mediteranian and the only way our ships could gain passage to the holy land for knights was to pay homage to them by flying their emblem, the cross of st george.
From then on English ships would use it and Edward the 2nd also adopted it for his banner men.
The first time English soldiers used it was after it was noticed the Scottish kings Archers would wear a st andrew patch on their sleves and so England adopted the practice.
Generally it was a military and royal banner most of the public had no asociattion with it, until the empire was growing and even then the union flag was more prominent with the george cross still a military and maratime banner.
On an aside the cross is not the actuual flag of st george, the flag of st george is a red flag with a white motif of him slaying the dragon, and is only used presently still by Moscow as he is the patron saint of the city
tbf he is patron saint of shitloads of places he has fuck all to do with, especially in Italy and eastern europe
After the norman conquest the same banners were still used up until the second crusade for any military action on these shores.
When the second crusade began the kingdom of Genoa controlled the mediteranian and the only way our ships could gain passage to the holy land for knights was to pay homage to them by flying their emblem, the cross of st george.
From then on English ships would use it and Edward the 2nd also adopted it for his banner men.
The first time English soldiers used it was after it was noticed the Scottish kings Archers would wear a st andrew patch on their sleves and so England adopted the practice.
Generally it was a military and royal banner most of the public had no asociattion with it, until the empire was growing and even then the union flag was more prominent with the george cross still a military and maratime banner.
On an aside the cross is not the actuual flag of st george, the flag of st george is a red flag with a white motif of him slaying the dragon, and is only used presently still by Moscow as he is the patron saint of the city
tbf he is patron saint of shitloads of places he has fuck all to do with, especially in Italy and eastern europe
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