Sam Allardyce

Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
Again I point to the rugby and cricket teams, the rugby team didnt have any world class players apparently, didnt even get out of the group in the last world cup on home soil, yet appoint an Aussie who knows what he is doing and we have gone to Australia and won 3-0 for a series win for the first time ever. The cricket team in the world cup were woeful, years behind other teams in strategy and technique apparently, county cricket not producing players who were capable, we appoint a forward thinking foreign coach and all of a sudden we have a team that got to the T20 final, won the Ashes and in one day cricket look an entirely different team.

We have set the bar horribly low with this appointment. The only positive i can think of is at least it isnt the elephant man.
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Sorry but that's not quite right. In recent memory, the rugby team have won a World Cup, been runners up, and won the six nations. The cricket team have been ranked number 1 quite recently and have a few players ranked in the world top 20. The football team have been shit forever. They were lucky in 66 and are where they deserve to be. At least Allardyce will not pander to the press and pick players out of position and he'll give the England players fairly simple instructions, which is all they are capable of absorbing.
Let's try someone who'll have a plan and give the precious boys a bollocking now and again.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Sorry but that's not quite right. In recent memory, the rugby team have won a World Cup, been runners up, and won the six nations. The cricket team have been ranked number 1 quite recently and have a few players ranked in the world top 20. The football team have been shit forever. They were lucky in 66 and are where they deserve to be. At least Allardyce will not pander to the press and pick players out of position and he'll give the England players fairly simple instructions, which is all they are capable of absorbing.
Let's try someone who'll have a plan and give the precious boys a bollocking now and again.
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Well said, mate. I afraid @Paul Lake's Left Knee is part of the new breed of middle class fans that have unfiltrated our club, who weren't there in the dark times.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Sorry but that's not quite right. In recent memory, the rugby team have won a World Cup, been runners up, and won the six nations. The cricket team have been ranked number 1 quite recently and have a few players ranked in the world top 20. The football team have been shit forever. They were lucky in 66 and are where they deserve to be. At least Allardyce will not pander to the press and pick players out of position and he'll give the England players fairly simple instructions, which is all they are capable of absorbing.
Let's try someone who'll have a plan and give the precious boys a bollocking now and again.
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None of the world cup winning rugby side are still playing, so the fact they won it is completely irrelevant to the current side and the most recent grand slam before this years one was 2003. England were an abject failure in the recent world cup, worse than the football team in the Euros, yet within months of getting a new manager who knows what he is doing, won the grand slam and we have never won a series in Australia before, even the world cup winning side.

The criticism the cricket team got for sacking Cook on the eve of the world cup, players not having a clue how to respond to the coach who came out with garbled messages and interviews that made little sense, talking about data and stats when the team had just been slaughtered, suddenly the same players under a new coach played with a completely different style and with confidence that was lacking only months before. We went out of the world cup having been beaten by Bangladesh. The side hasnt been in a world cup final since 1992, we were so lowly ranked we nearly had to qualify for the 2006 champions trophy and havent been ranked number 1 in one day cricket for decades. Root is the only player we have who is in the top 10 for either discipline in ODI cricket and it says everything that Anderson is our top ranked bowler despite hardly playing that format over the last 2 years, sad state of affairs because the players are coming from such a low ranking that they are only just appearing near the top Buttler for example isnt in the top 10 due to a shocking world cup but since Bayliss has taken over is one of the most destructive batsmen in the shorter format. The test side peaked to be number 1 however soon tailed off to be 6th, a ranking we are only now recovering from. Anyone describing Lancaster and Moores as anything other than disastrous is being generous.

If your happy with fat Sam then thats for you, but he wouldnt rank in the top 10 managers in the PL let alone the world for me, the FA have settled for mediocrity just because he is English and there are no other Englishmen. Anyone thinking that good management is shouting and ranting at people is living in the dark ages.
 
It's a good appointment. Initially I thought the FA were being narrow minded in thinking "We need a manager who would have beat Iceland", but I think the FA have conceded that England are actually shit and are Championship standard in terms of International football is concerned. Big Sam will elevate them.
 
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