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Samir Nasri
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Possibly what Mancini is hoping?SuperMario's Fireworks. said:he really hasnt helped himself with these comments, bobs obviously said these comments publicly to try and fire him up. Nasri will end up being at PSG in the summer.
Now you're saying I'm talking nonsense, you get out of bed the wrong side Nip?
Calm down dear, can we not have a polite conversation without you calling my opinion crap or nonsense?
I'm looking at both managers careers overall and judging them on that. I couldn't give a shit what individual players think in regards to who it was best to work under.
Calm down dear, can we not have a polite conversation without you calling my opinion crap or nonsense?
I'm looking at both managers careers overall and judging them on that. I couldn't give a shit what individual players think in regards to who it was best to work under.
kaz7
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olddirty said:Rolee said:Don't get me wrong Nip, I believe Wenger is brilliant, I just believe Mancini is better.
Mancini better than Wenger ? Seriously ?
someone put up the win % and trophy stats please
NipHolmes
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karen7 said:olddirty said:Rolee said:Don't get me wrong Nip, I believe Wenger is brilliant, I just believe Mancini is better.
Mancini better than Wenger ? Seriously ?
someone put up the win % and trophy stats please
Add spend too. You know, just for balance purposes.
BoyBlue_1985 said:Sorry bobster, I have no problem with what he has said but the press are manipulating nothing. he actually said this stuffbobmcfc said:The press are manipulating a situation yet again ! seriously, don't fall for it
The press are making something out of nothing. Nasri never called Mancini a liar like the Fail suggest.
-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:49 am --
NipHolmes said:karen7 said:olddirty said:Mancini better than Wenger ? Seriously ?
someone put up the win % and trophy stats please
Add spend too. You know, just for balance purposes.
Is the point of football winning things, or not spending money?
Or to put it another way, if Mancini spent nothing and won nothing for the next 7 years would that make him a better manager than if he spent and won a shitload?
karen7 said:olddirty said:Rolee said:Don't get me wrong Nip, I believe Wenger is brilliant, I just believe Mancini is better.
Mancini better than Wenger ? Seriously ?
someone put up the win % and trophy stats please
It's not all about stats. Sometimes it's not all about money either.
BobKowalski
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Taking a wild stab at this...
ok with Nasri comments = Mancini out
not ok with Nasri comments - Mancini in
Nasri can refute Mancini's assessment as he is entitled to do. The fact that he has had a poor season is self-evident and something he actually acknowledges which kind of makes Mancini's point for him. If Nasri is fired up enough to deliver a series of 'fuck you' performances then happy days. I personally think Nasri will be moved on in the summer but it would be nice to see him go out with a bang if that does happen.
As for the Wenger love...well duh. Nasri needs the love just like Dzeko needs the love. If you come to City under Mancini looking for love then you will be sorely disappointed. To get Mancini love - the occasional squeeze of the shoulder here, a pat on the cheek there - you need to put it out there and be seen to put it out there week in, week out on a consistent basis. If you need a warm, loving environment to even get close to this then Mancini and City isn't for you.
Most Arsenal fans seem to think Nasri had one good half season and that was about it. How much of that is coloured by the way Nasri left I honestly couldn't say but along with his national team exclusion and performances under two contrasting styles of management I can't help thinking that Nasri should start looking at himself a bit more.
Which funnily enough is pretty much what Mancini is saying as well.
ok with Nasri comments = Mancini out
not ok with Nasri comments - Mancini in
Nasri can refute Mancini's assessment as he is entitled to do. The fact that he has had a poor season is self-evident and something he actually acknowledges which kind of makes Mancini's point for him. If Nasri is fired up enough to deliver a series of 'fuck you' performances then happy days. I personally think Nasri will be moved on in the summer but it would be nice to see him go out with a bang if that does happen.
As for the Wenger love...well duh. Nasri needs the love just like Dzeko needs the love. If you come to City under Mancini looking for love then you will be sorely disappointed. To get Mancini love - the occasional squeeze of the shoulder here, a pat on the cheek there - you need to put it out there and be seen to put it out there week in, week out on a consistent basis. If you need a warm, loving environment to even get close to this then Mancini and City isn't for you.
Most Arsenal fans seem to think Nasri had one good half season and that was about it. How much of that is coloured by the way Nasri left I honestly couldn't say but along with his national team exclusion and performances under two contrasting styles of management I can't help thinking that Nasri should start looking at himself a bit more.
Which funnily enough is pretty much what Mancini is saying as well.
BoyBlue_1985
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The cookie monster said:BoyBlue_1985 said:Sorry bobster, I have no problem with what he has said but the press are manipulating nothing. he actually said this stuffbobmcfc said:The press are manipulating a situation yet again ! seriously, don't fall for it
You dont think the big headline of Mancini is a LIAR is manipulating the situation
Didn't see the Mail one
NipHolmes
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moomba said:BoyBlue_1985 said:Sorry bobster, I have no problem with what he has said but the press are manipulating nothing. he actually said this stuffbobmcfc said:The press are manipulating a situation yet again ! seriously, don't fall for it
The press are making something out of nothing. Nasri never called Mancini a liar like the Fail suggest.
-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:49 am --
NipHolmes said:karen7 said:someone put up the win % and trophy stats please
Add spend too. You know, just for balance purposes.
Is the point of football winning things, or not spending money?
Or to put it another way, if Mancini spent nothing and won nothing for the next 7 years would that make him a better manager than if he spent and won a shitload?
If Mancini had to manage us and we sold off our crown jewels season after season yet Mancini kept us in CL then he'd have to be credited for winning a thankless battle.
The point of football is to win things I agree but that prinicple got lost when businessmen came into the game to make money rather than spend and try to win.
If Wenger was a 'crap manager' or even one on decline then why would he have not been sacked? Why would he be paid one of the highest wages in Europe?
Reason is because he's doing a good job and he's making the board money. Usmanov tells you and I all you need to know. I have called this spade ages ago and Nasri just did it yesterday. Kroenke alone is the reason Arsenal are struggling.<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:00 am --<br /><br />
Rolee said:Now you're saying I'm talking nonsense, you get out of bed the wrong side Nip?
Calm down dear, can we not have a polite conversation without you calling my opinion crap or nonsense?
I'm looking at both managers careers overall and judging them on that. I couldn't give a shit what individual players think in regards to who it was best to work under.
Sorry Rolle for my tone, I just won't accept unfair arguments and points because if it were us who were making profit and selling starts every year and it was Arsenal spending then I'd stick up for us so I'm being fair.
Players who have played under both managers have an opinion which is qualified rather tahn specualtive. I'd take no stock in the likes of say Ginola saying Wenger is a better manager but I take stock from players who've played under both. Just like I do with Moratti who employed both Jose and Mancini and said Jose is a better manager. These people have sound opinions and based on truths and experience rather than bias and speculation.
It's like me saying 'Silva is better than Iniesta', it's just an opinion but if I played with both then i'd have an informed and qualified opinion. It's just like an article in the press, if it has no quotes it should be dismissed but if it has quotes and sources it should be treated with credence.