San Marino v England | Monday 15th November 2021

WTF is an orthodox defender?

Someone who cant control the ball, cant bring the ball out from defence. Someone who just boots it clear anywhere, someone who cant read the game. Someone who uses fouls, someone who is over rated. Basically a throwback defender from the just boot it age. Basically a big lump with the speed and turning circle of the cruise liner
Nowadays defenders are expected to be footballers as are keepers !
 
You said Mbappe's four goals against Kazakhstan weren't stat padding because he'd won the World Cup - fair enough. Messi has an outstanding record in big games at club level, but has arguably underperformed in major international finals. Lukaku, much as everyone here mocks him, is Belgium's top international goal scorer but has only won two league titles - one with Anderlecht and one last year with Inter. Is he just a stat padder? Jimmy Greaves scored a load of goals at club level and 44 goals in 57 games for England, and he only won a couple of FA Cups and a Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs back in the day. Is that not stat padding? Why is goal scoring only a bad thing when Harry Kane does it?
Because he has a speech impediment…?….:)
 

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