Sarah Everard murder | Wayne Couzens given whole-life sentence

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

True. I guess the “banter” is to offset the shit that they witness on a daily basis. Similar to the army and they have the lad culture too.

Yep, I suppose it just goes underground though (WhatsApp etc).

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I suppose it comes down to how you personally see the police. If you assume it's some sort of old boys club for rapists then absolutely. In my own naïve little way I still think the vast majority of coppers are good eggs and trustworthy, although I realise that some folk think we live in some alt-right hell of populist racist politicians aided and abetted by heavy handed rapey police all controlled by Farage and Trump from some bond-villian style lair.

If you had used 99.9% it would have been better.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think this is a bit of a simplistic solution though. Most rapes and murders of women are not caused by the Wayne Couzens types. Rapists and murderers are not people who have never been taught that it's wrong to rape and murder, they're typically people who feel entitled to someone else's attention, love and body. I've not checked, but I'd have a guess that the vast majority of those killers since Couzens was caught are jilted or jealous husbands, boyfriends or prospective boyfriends. You see it in absolutely every culture around the world. And obviously women are just as capable of being jealous and controlling in a relationship, but it's kinda like comparing a chihuahua and a pitbull. Yeah, both are capable of going crazy and biting you, but one of them is a far bigger issue.

So I guess my point is that it's not enough to say "don't rape," the key things are firstly a cultural shift to change the attitudes that cause this jealous and controlling behaviour, as well as that "any hole's a goal" attitude that men in groups often have, (even if they don't really believe it or act on it, they often perpetuate it, covering for men who do). I remember being in nightclubs in my late teens and seeing obviously hammered women being surrounded by men who saw her as an easy shag basically because she didn't know what she was doing, and then having to be led home by her friends, basically to avoid getting raped by a man who would have no doubt not considered it rape. It's not a 0.0001% that some suggest. It's shitloads of men who think this way, or at least did when I was a youngster, which wasn't so long ago.

But failing that cultural shift, massive investment in the sorts of things that allow women (and men) in such a situation to be protected. So that's things like women's shelters, restraining orders, etc. And yes, more police too, despite their many recent failings. But all of this stuff costs money, which is why it doesn't happen.

Spot on, and it's up to good men to call it out when it goes on at the basic level.

One time I remember one sad case in our travelling group to krakow using the words "please will you have sex with me" to a girl who was just from her face was visibly wasted and overtired and having to be assertive with him to stop embarrassing himself and leave her alone.

But another time in the UK with a group of work colleagues another sad bloke chose to get persistently touchy feely with a girl who was mates with the only other girl in our group. She was obviously not interested and way out of his league but I can't remember her mate saying anything or even any of us having a quiet word.

Not sure what's wrong with people who don't get the icky feeling and back off when their affection is not wanted.

 

[surrounded by idiots]

It goes on. There are not enough places on rule 43 to house all of them.
One of them upsets the regime and a couple of winks later the car thief on the wing is revealed to be a nonce.
Two bullys are given the nod and an incentive and the nonce gets kicked to fuck.
Our hero bullys have been lied to and end up in the block as the regime wants them gone too. Off they go on the next ship out to another jail.
Too brain dead to realise they have been pawns until they have been moved to another prison and are facing sec 18 charges. It happens.

Thanks, really appreciate you explaining to me how I work and what a dodgy piece of shit I am, cheers

 

[m7mcfc]

Thanks, really appreciate you explaining to me how I work and what a dodgy piece of shit I am, cheers

I was not explaining to you my friend. Tell me it does not happen. Of course not on your watch. But it does.

 

[m7mcfc]

The only way to ensure that we never have another rapist copper is to make them all women.

You do know there are female rapists

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You do know there are female rapists

Ok, all police officers have to be babies.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

You do know there are female rapists

You can't commit rape unless you have a penis.

 

[mexico1970]

You can't commit rape unless you have a penis.

These days there are female men, or even male females.

 

[Thorin Oakenshield]

You can't commit rape unless you have a penis.

You never fingered someone before?