Schalke post match thread

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I must just add to this discussion that I listened to RManc on the way home from the MCWFC v EFC game tonight and dear Danny Mills was co-commentationg, and I must say that he was very much behind City tonight. He thought the first pen was laughable and that Otters second yellow was very much debatable. At 2-1 down he was confident that come the game at The Etihad we would put the tie out of Schalke's reach. Well done, Danny!

 

[The Colonel]

Wio. What an absolute cock. And to think he actually gets paid for that. Unbelievable.

Didn’t he say no pen?

 

[@BluePhil8]

Only heard it mentioned on Five Live by Mills of all people how by the protocol the ref is supposed to consult a screen but it was 'broken ' ?and got told to reverse his decision and give Nico a yellow.........but what a fucking comeback!

Wonder who was on the the other end of his ear piece....

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

The movement of the arm towards or away from the ball is only part of the decision process for the ref.

Cool. So someone who moves their arm away from the ball, as opposed to towards it, is deliberately committing a handball offence? For a penalty to be given the rule requires the offence to be deliberate of course.

I respect your view, and that of SWP, of course. The point I am trying to make is that the stated aim of VAR is to clear up clear and obvious errors. It does no such thing. Limit it to goal line decisions, limit it to offsides if you like (tho evidence from cricket and tennis is that it is far from
Infallible on line decisions). Don’t have it in play for subjective decisions. Give the ref a camera to look at. Leave it to him

 

[Blue Llama]

I might be a plum but at least I'm not a nerf herder

I haven't got the time to waste on arguing with someone who cannot understand a basic point.

 

[Withnail]

Great win and our character and resilience certainly can not be questioned tonight. Leroy take a bow what a beautiful goal and he should have been on the field a lot earlier for me as we we seemed to be running out of ideas and his pace, mazy runs would have helped us.

Ref the usual pile of shit but no surprise in the CL.

Pep got the team selection wrong tonight imo and should have played Dhino in his usual DM role, with Zinchenko at LB and Laporte at cb.

 

[hihosilva]

Around the refs throat would have been a start...

Lol

 

[west didsblue]

I’d be crying out for a penalty if it was us appealing. I thought pen straight away and I still think it was now. There’s a fine line with these sort of incidents, but he wasn’t exactly point blank and his arms were outstretched. Add to the fact the ball looking liked it was on target and I can’t see how it isn’t a penalty. Like I said, if it was City in the same situation, I’d be going nuts for a pen.

Was thinking the same. No complaints about that one. The second one was more iffy imo because of the offside.

 

[inchy14]

Watch any game of football and 90% of defenders put both arms behind their backs once they square up in the penalty area. Micah Richards did it every time.

Except at Klanfield

 

[cleavers]

If that was the case then they would have disallowed our first and third goals.

Why ? Our third, their player pushes Sterling first, the first isn't even up for debate its never a foul, they initially reviewed it for offside, but then went back 1 minute to see if it was a foul, it wasn't.

 

[SWP's back]

You really are talking shit.

How is that post talking shite?

Actually answer the point.

If they wanted to really fuck us over, they use VAR and disallow one or both of the first and third goals. The fact you just say I’m talking shite and don’t bother addressing the point proves you don’t actually have an argument against it.

If that’s the level of your debate then don’t bother replying.

 

[OB1]

Watch any game of football and 90% of defenders put both arms behind their backs once they square up in the penalty area. Micah Richards did it every time.

Otamendi wasn't squaring up though! He was was poised to see where he should move and you don't clasp your arms behind your back in that situation.

 

[@BluePhil8]

I haven't got the time to waste on arguing with someone who cannot understand a basic point.

Good, don't argue with me then, just let me win.

 

[cityontheup]

I think Pep is being smart with his after match comments (probably helps that we eventually won), but I feel by saying he agrees with the VAR results and likes VAR he would expect the officials to come to the same conclusion in our favour in similar circumstances
Even though in my opinion Pep inside thinks the desicions especially the hand ball was bent. So basically saying to UEFA don’t fuck us over in similar circumstances

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Maybe not initially pointing out completely horizontal. If it starts by his body then her moves it out of the way.

How many footballers (or just people in general) do you know, that run around with their arms glued to their hips?

It’s just not a penalty and the fact it took 2.5 mins for someone to overrule a decision, which should only be overruled if it is a clear and obvious error, shows the referees don’t have a fucking clue what they are doing.

 

[SWP's back]

"The nudge on the defender" seriously ? The defender pushed him first, he "nudged" back. Also it wasn't referred anyway.

Doesn’t have to be referred. The VAR checks everything all the time and ALL goals. Ffs.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Very odd match good for about 35 minutes, dreadful for 35 minutes and good again for 20 mins. Schalke were dreadful for the most part.

We still have spells where the whole team malfunctions. If we can get over that we’ll be very hard to stop.

A few of our better l like Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne and Otamendi were poor for long spells. Means Sunday’s team will be hard to pick- I think Muric, Walker, Laporte, Fernandinho, Bernardo, Sterling and Aguero are likely to play. After that who plays at left back? Does Dinho play centre back or centre mid? One or two from Gundogan, De Bruyne or Silva? Sane back or not?

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Cool. So someone who moves their arm away from the ball, as opposed to towards it, is deliberately committing a handball offence? For a penalty to be given the rule requires the offence to be deliberate of course.

I always thought this to be the case. Has it changed ? I don't understand how, if it hasn't, people can view that 'handball' as deliberate.

 

[Nascent Blues]

Watch any game of football and 90% of defenders put both arms behind their backs once they square up in the penalty area. Micah Richards did it every time.

Like I said, that's in the rule book? No. No it isn't. There's absolutely no mention of defenders putting their hands or arms behind their backs, but I guess you already knew that.
For somebody that wants to use the rules to support your point, it seems as though you are making up your own rules to support a bullshit hypothesis.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Don't know how this bloke gets on a telecast , biased waste of space.

Jermaine Thingy said he'd watched the Atletico game, non of the kind of fouls Fernandinho made, were given, at all & if there was a 'clear line' where Fernandinho knows he will be punished for that offence, it won't happen.

City would have played in 5,6,7,8 games where that's happened & nothing has been given.

Walton's response: " HE GIVES HIS DECISIONS, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME HE IS WATCHING AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME".

So there we have it.

The handball, that wasn't a handball at the weekend, is a handball tonight, the offside, isn't an offside tonight, but can bevm tomorrow night, & the pull by Fernandinho, is a foul tonight: "in the context of the game he is watching".

So that's how refs think & they think that's ok And refs are operating v.a.r.

V.a.r. is going to be fucking great for us, we can tell by how much it has helped us so far.