I agree and it was a shit decision. Just because I agree today doesn’t mean I agree with every fucking referring decision in the last decade. I called three penalties on Sunday. None were given. All were incorrect.It. Was. A. Clear. Fucking. Penalty. Without. VAR!
The law has never changed but the interpretation has. The laws states nothing about making oneself bigger or “unnatural position” either but every ex ref always uses those terms when discussing penalty decisions for handball.
I am not defending the decision, it was very harsh. And agree VAR has to work better than that pantomime. Just saying it is wrong to say Ota moving his arm away from the ball is enough to say it wasn't deliberate, it's only part of the law.Cool. So someone who moves their arm away from the ball, as opposed to towards it, is deliberately committing a handball offence? For a penalty to be given the rule requires the offence to be deliberate of course.
I respect your view, and that of SWP, of course. The point I am trying to make is that the stated aim of VAR is to clear up clear and obvious errors. It does no such thing. Limit it to goal line decisions, limit it to offsides if you like (tho evidence from cricket and tennis is that it is far from
Infallible on line decisions). Don’t have it in play for subjective decisions. Give the ref a camera to look at. Leave it to him
There is no requirement for players to put their arms behind their backs.Watch any game of football and 90% of defenders put both arms behind their backs once they square up in the penalty area. Micah Richards did it every time.
How is that post talking shite?
Actually answer the point.
If they wanted to really fuck us over, they use VAR and disallow one or both of the first and third goals. The fact you just say I’m talking shite and don’t bother addressing the point proves you don’t actually have an argument against it.
If that’s the level of your debate then don’t bother replying.
Huw Edwards was basically crying when presenting Man City's win on the BBC News sports news.
Boo hoo sniff sniff...
Because if they’re bent then they don’t need them to actual fouls do they. That’s the whole point.Why ? Our third, their player pushes Sterling first, the first isn't even up for debate its never a foul, they initially reviewed it for offside, but then went back 1 minute to see if it was a foul, it wasn't.
In the FAC (which is a farce as its only a few games) and LC yes, but not in the CL, and therein lies the whole farce of it, lets have one version of VAR in football, and one that is utterly transparent to those at the game (and watching on TV).Doesn’t have to be referred. The VAR checks everything all the time and ALL goals. Ffs.
Jermaine Thingy said he'd watched the Atletico game, non of the kind of fouls Fernandinho made, were given, at all & if there was a 'clear line' where Fernandinho knows he will be punished for that offence, it won't happen.
City would have played in 5,6,7,8 games where that's happened & nothing has been given.
Walton's response: " HE GIVES HIS DECISIONS, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME HE IS WATCHING AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME".
So there we have it.
The handball, that wasn't a handball at the weekend, is a handball tonight, the offside, isn't an offside tonight, but can bevm tomorrow night, & the pull by Fernandinho, is a foul tonight: "in the context of the game he is watching".
So that's how refs think & they think that's ok And refs are operating v.a.r.
V.a.r. is going to be fucking great for us, we can tell by how much it has helped us so far.
Correct. But he already knows this. Can't beat a bit of sophistry.There is no requirement for players to put their arms behind their backs.
Somebody off the field made that decision, which only serves to make it look suspicious.How many footballers (or just people in general) do you know, that run around with their arms glued to their hips?
It’s just not a penalty and the fact it took 2.5 mins for someone to overrule a decision, which should only be overruled if it is a clear and obvious error, shows the referees don’t have a fucking clue what they are doing.
I’d be crying out for a penalty if it was us appealing. I thought pen straight away and I still think it was now. There’s a fine line with these sort of incidents, but he wasn’t exactly point blank and his arms were outstretched. Add to the fact the ball looking liked it was on target and I can’t see how it isn’t a penalty. Like I said, if it was City in the same situation, I’d be going nuts for a pen.