What gets me is why they get to have a say on it but England and Wales don't since we're part of the United Kingdom as well. If they want to go then we better cut them off completely no more free hand outs, they can fund their own health service and universities and armed forces and they can forget about keeping the pound.
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Scotland Independance Referendum
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charliebigspuds
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They should grab the opportunity to separate from all the greedy, corrupt politicians and start a real socialist state
Yes, ideally that's how i feel i should make the decision.Damocles said:pee dubya said:Pretty much, gut feeling yes.Damocles said:You're voting in a geopolitical decision based on emotion.
There's nothing else to say really. You make your own bed in life
You think i should remove emotion and try my best to make a logical decision based upon as much fact i can sift from the agenda driven turdstream as i can?
I do. I think that you should remember that you are making a decision that you will have to explain to your Grandkids, and will have to explain why you did something. I can't help but feel that if the answer is "because I got caught up in it" then you'll leave both you and them dissatisfied.
The reality is though, with the amount of uncertainty involved, a logical decision feels basically impossible. Maybe if i'd studied economics, or social science, i'd have a stronger opinion on how we'd fare (although it seems those that have are split anyway), but as far as i can see, countries of a similar potential size range from amongst the highest standard of living in the World to failed states. And thats assuming that standard of living is the only important thing. Maybe it's better to have a slightly lower standard of living if it means more control over your own destiny.
My logical train of thought has led me to the conclusion that i can't make the decision logically. I don't have the information, there's too many variables and too much out of our control.
It really boils down to take a risk or play safe, since i don't know the odds it's a gut decision.
carlos tevez is a blue
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I'd like to see Scotland go independent, just so they have their own Eurovision entry.
Ancient Citizen
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charliebigspuds said:They should grab the opportunity to separate from all the greedy, corrupt politicians and start a real socialist state
Yes, I'd love the Scots, and with no input from us whatsoever, to implement this.
Now that really would be a laugh 2 years down the line.
Carstairs
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Kun Aguero said:I'd like to see Scotland go independent, just so they have their own Eurovision entry.
I'd walk 500 miles to see that.
pee dubya said:Yes, ideally that's how i feel i should make the decision.Damocles said:pee dubya said:Pretty much, gut feeling yes.
You think i should remove emotion and try my best to make a logical decision based upon as much fact i can sift from the agenda driven turdstream as i can?
I do. I think that you should remember that you are making a decision that you will have to explain to your Grandkids, and will have to explain why you did something. I can't help but feel that if the answer is "because I got caught up in it" then you'll leave both you and them dissatisfied.
The reality is though, with the amount of uncertainty involved, a logical decision feels basically impossible. Maybe if i'd studied economics, or social science, i'd have a stronger opinion on how we'd fare (although it seems those that have are split anyway), but as far as i can see, countries of a similar potential size range from amongst the highest standard of living in the World to failed states. And thats assuming that standard of living is the only important thing. Maybe it's better to have a slightly lower standard of living if it means more control over your own destiny.
My logical train of thought has led me to the conclusion that i can't make the decision logically. I don't have the information, there's too many variables and too much out of our control.
It really boils down to take a risk or play safe, since i don't know the odds it's a gut decision.
Turkeys really do vote for Christmas.
BigJimLittleJim
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charliebigspuds said:They should grab the opportunity to separate from all the greedy, corrupt politicians and start a real socialist state
this would be fascinating, to see if they can shake off the grime of our political system for a shiny new, egalitarian one - the realist in me has grave doubts, but the optimist is rooting for them :)
gordondaviesmoustache
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Surely the IMF would be called in before that, AC?Ancient Citizen said:charliebigspuds said:They should grab the opportunity to separate from all the greedy, corrupt politicians and start a real socialist state
Yes, I'd love the Scots, and with no input from us whatsoever, to implement this.
Now that really would be a laugh 2 years down the line.