Scotland Independance Referendum

[sd92]

When does this non-event take place?

This non event will take place on the 18th of September.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Well the thing is what we want to do with the oil money is put in aside for a rainy day like Norway? I could be wrong on that.

Now I know it may seem like we have a chip on our shoulders etcs but I must stress I personally do not. I have no issue being British, contrary I'm proud to be so, just as much as I am proud to be Scottish.

We currently run on the taxes already set, discounting the oil money. We can continue to do so and put money into a fund, from the oil sales as is proposed

When most economist says Salmond is wrong im more entitled to listen them than a slimy politician little scotlander
He doesn't even have a plan for a currency 6 months of the vote, well he did until he was laughed off by everyone. All I can say is good luck if the vote is yes because the plan is fatally flawed.
Im not saying it couldn't work some way it just doesn't work Salmonds way

they have the backing of financial experts that have told them their plans will work...

Without a currency??

 

[The Flash]

Well the thing is what we want to do with the oil money is put in aside for a rainy day like Norway? I could be wrong on that.

Now I know it may seem like we have a chip on our shoulders etcs but I must stress I personally do not. I have no issue being British, contrary I'm proud to be so, just as much as I am proud to be Scottish.

We currently run on the taxes already set, discounting the oil money. We can continue to do so and put money into a fund, from the oil sales as is proposed

When most economist says Salmond is wrong im more entitled to listen them than a slimy politician little scotlander
He doesn't even have a plan for a currency 6 months of the vote, well he did until he was laughed off by everyone. All I can say is good luck if the vote is yes because the plan is fatally flawed.
Im not saying it couldn't work some way it just doesn't work Salmonds way

they have the backing of financial experts that have told them their plans will work...

I find it very amusing that if independence is gained, the likes of RBS and Standard Life will have to move their HQ's to England.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

All joking aside, there are plenty of English folk mocking those in the "independence" camp so can I ask those people why you would want Scotland to stay as part of the Union?

I must confess to being one of the 'Mockers.' but that's down mostly to good humoured banter being prevalent amongst us and the Scotch, (smirk*).
There are also a goodly amount of us English in the mocking camp who don't give a flying one if Scotland quits the union, we will no longer have Jock MP's involved in our affairs whilst having none of ours in theirs, we can sit back and watch them set up their own currency, as they will be excluded from the EU, (Spain will veto entry), and we can badger the media, primarily the BBC into giving us presenters with an accent that was formulated somewhere south of Dumfries for a change.

 

[smudgedj]

I think most Scots want to stay in the Union.

If not then so be it, I'm an Englishman and proud of it.

If Independence comes it will be great to see all the Scottish MPs at Westminster leave and be banished back beyond "Hadrians Wall".

Perhaps we could repatriate all Scots that have settled south of the border. After all an Independent Scotland would not be part of the European Union.

That would create some jobs and housing!! Just a thought.

"Keep St George in my Heart keep me English, keep St George in my Heart I pray.........." and so the battle cry goes on!!

Don't forget the 5.3 million people off the books of the NHS and the huge decrease in Britain’s welfare bill.

You do realise that we find everything we do up here?

You guys benefit from our money?
We pay more in tax per head than you do?

This is not a chip on a shoulder it is a mere pointing out of facts.

We already pay for our own nhs. Our own welfare. We send money to Westminster and recieve a certain amount back. They spend the rest on rUK.

Ok I'll have to take your word for that - at the moment you fund everything - however what happens when you have to take on your share of the UKs debt? Your interest payments alone will be 5 billion a year. Never mind the money the UK taxpayer forked out to keep your banks afloat (was it 70 billion?)


You wont have the pound
You wont have membership of Europe
You'll be out of NATO
Out of the G6, 8, 20 (or whatever the fuckers are called this year)
Etc...blah blah blah

As someone has already stated it's going to be an interesting experiment - and if you do vote yes then good luck to you all.

 

[Ban-jani]

It's a common conception that London props up the rest of the UK economically. If they vote yes obviously a huge chunk of the UK will no longer be our problem, will this mean that areas in the remainder of the UK will improve?

I know this may be obvious to some but forgive my lack of knowledge.

 

[Gabriel]

It's a common conception that London props up the rest of the UK economically. If they vote yes obviously a huge chunk of the UK will no longer be our problem, will this mean that areas in the remainder of the UK will improve?

I know this may be obvious to some but forgive my lack of knowledge.

I wouldn't imagine so, but viewing the debate in terms of parts of the UK as being a problem does not necessarily help. As far as I know, Scotland, nor indeed any large part of the UK is a problem per se. If anything, the separation would likely accentuate the already wide gulf between London and the counties north of, say, the Severn. One would like to think that greater equality might ensue, but if it isn't happening now, I just can't imagine it will.

 

[cibaman]

All joking aside, there are plenty of English folk mocking those in the "independence" camp so can I ask those people why you would want Scotland to stay as part of the Union?

I suspect that a majority of Bluemooners are Labour supporters, or at least anti Tory. A yes vote would be a disaster for Labour.

I also suspect that many Tories would like a yes vote but cant say so publicly because of their Unionist tradition. When it was reported that "an unnamed cabinet minister" had said off the record that Scotland would keep the pound, I did wonder if it was part of a secret plan to tilt the referendum in favour of the yes vote.

 

[Davs 19]

Well the thing is what we want to do with the oil money is put in aside for a rainy day like Norway? I could be wrong on that.

Now I know it may seem like we have a chip on our shoulders etcs but I must stress I personally do not. I have no issue being British, contrary I'm proud to be so, just as much as I am proud to be Scottish.

We currently run on the taxes already set, discounting the oil money. We can continue to do so and put money into a fund, from the oil sales as is proposed

When most economist says Salmond is wrong im more entitled to listen them than a slimy politician little scotlander
He doesn't even have a plan for a currency 6 months of the vote, well he did until he was laughed off by everyone. All I can say is good luck if the vote is yes because the plan is fatally flawed.
Im not saying it couldn't work some way it just doesn't work Salmonds way

they have the backing of financial experts that have told them their plans will work...

You'r either woefully misinformed or on the wum. Thankfully, the majority will see through the self serving publicist that is Salmond and the union will continue.

God help Scotland if it doesn't.

 

[Ban-jani]

It's a common conception that London props up the rest of the UK economically. If they vote yes obviously a huge chunk of the UK will no longer be our problem, will this mean that areas in the remainder of the UK will improve?

I know this may be obvious to some but forgive my lack of knowledge.

I wouldn't imagine so, but viewing the debate in terms of parts of the UK as being a problem does not necessarily help. As far as I know, Scotland, nor indeed any large part of the UK is a problem per se. If anything, the separation would likely accentuate the already wide gulf between London and the counties north of, say, the Severn. One would like to think that greater equality might ensue, but if it isn't happening now, I just can't imagine it will.

I'm hoping the talk of creating a network up north to rival London comes true, Manchester being central to it.
It would be great for our City.