Scottish Football Thread - 2022/23

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Gabriel said:
Well, the wheels really did fall off the Queen’s Park wagon as the season closed, with their defence incapable of keeping a clean sheet. Partick Thistle will now face Ayr United, who haven’t been in the top flight sine the 1970s, for the right to slug it out with whoever finishes second bottom. Could it be an all Ayrshire contest?
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Imagine Ayr beating Killie in the play off.
 
bennyboy said:
Partick v Ayr to see who gets the second bottom SPL club in the final.
Dundee Utd v Ross County the big one today.Kilmarnock v Livi the other big tie.
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The Scottish playoffs always seem to be weighted in favour of the side that is incumbent in the higher division, which strikes me as unfair. Would be interested in seeing how many times the side finishing second bottom has then been relegated.

As for today, if Dundee United and Kilmarnock both win, then that might seal Ross County’s fate. In the upper half, if Aberdeen win and Hearts lose at Paisley, then that might seal the European spot as well.
 
Gabriel said:
The Scottish playoffs always seem to be weighted in favour of the side that is incumbent in the higher division, which strikes me as unfair. Would be interested in seeing how many times the side finishing second bottom has then been relegated.

As for today, if Dundee United and Kilmarnock both win, then that might seal Ross County’s fate. In the upper half, if Aberdeen win and Hearts lose at Paisley, then that might seal the European spot as well.
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If the fixtures were fixed so that all the teams in the other divisions finished the same time as the Premier league the play offs would be a lot fairer.For some reason we do not do that up here.
TV does not help.We have a meaningless old firm game on tv up here today when it should be Dundee Utd v Ross County on tv.
I believe Rangers are on every week from now until the season ends.So that is four meaningless games until the season ends on tv.
Hibs sneaking up for the other spot in Europe as well.
So we have three teams battling for two of the last European places and none of the games between them will be on tv.
 
bennyboy said:
If the fixtures were fixed so that all the teams in the other divisions finished the same time as the Premier league the play offs would be a lot fairer.For some reason we do not do that up here.
TV does not help.We have a meaningless old firm game on tv up here today when it should be Dundee Utd v Ross County on tv.
I believe Rangers are on every week from now until the season ends.So that is four meaningless games until the season ends on tv.
Hibs sneaking up for the other spot in Europe as well.
So we have three teams battling for two of the last European places and none of the games between them will be on tv.
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It’s certainly an odd system, though there are others that are even more bewildering. In the Netherland, for example, the playoff system in the second division takes some fathoming. The top two go up automatically, but then the team that finished 16th in the top flight is involved in what is called the Nacompetitie with six other clubs.
  • The club with the best record in the "first period" of the season (after 8 rounds).
  • The club with the best record in the "second period" of the season (rounds 9–16).
  • The club with the best record in the "third period" of the season (rounds 17–24).
  • The club with the best record in the "fourth period" of the season (rounds 25–32).
  • The two remaining spots are filled by the highest-placed clubs that have not already earned automatic promotion or qualified for the Nacompetitie.
That means you could get off to a blistering start in the first eight games, drop like a stone, narrowly avoid relegation, and yet still find yourself in the promotion playoffs!

In Scotland, when they continue to broadcast meaningless fixtures, then that simply reinforces the idea to the ‘watching world’ that the League is meaningless unless you support either of the Old Firm.
 
Gabriel said:
It’s certainly an odd system, though there are others that are even more bewildering. In the Netherland, for example, the playoff system in the second division takes some fathoming. The top two go up automatically, but then the team that finished 16th in the top flight is involved in what is called the Nacompetitie with six other clubs.
  • The club with the best record in the "first period" of the season (after 8 rounds).
  • The club with the best record in the "second period" of the season (rounds 9–16).
  • The club with the best record in the "third period" of the season (rounds 17–24).
  • The club with the best record in the "fourth period" of the season (rounds 25–32).
  • The two remaining spots are filled by the highest-placed clubs that have not already earned automatic promotion or qualified for the Nacompetitie.
That means you could get off to a blistering start in the first eight games, drop like a stone, narrowly avoid relegation, and yet still find yourself in the promotion playoffs!

In Scotland, when they continue to broadcast meaningless fixtures, then that simply reinforces the idea to the ‘watching world’ that the League is meaningless unless you support either of the Old Firm.
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A joke that tv is run for the old firm up here.
Always one of them on tv up here.
One of the seasons Hearts v Hibs was the most viewed game on tv and yet they still bend over backwards for the old firm.
 
bennyboy said:
A joke that tv is run for the old firm up here.
Always one of them on tv up here.
One of the seasons Hearts v Hibs was the most viewed game on tv and yet they still bend over backwards for the old firm.
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Like everything it would appear to be self-perpetuating, which is why I can understand the lack of sympathy they receive when they come unstuck in Europe. There will be seasons where they meet or even surpass their expectations in Europe, of course, but there seem to be more seasons when they don’t, and the inevitable cries of ‘nobody challenges us domestically’ ring increasingly hollow.
 
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