Scottish Football Thread - 2022/23

[TinFoilHat]

Celtic are on the beach

 

[jimharri]

Celtic are on the beach

Yep. I'm sure they still wouldn't want to lose to Rangers, mind.

 

[Gabriel]

Save for the first two seasons when Rangers were reincarnated and returned to the top flight, Celtic have been unable to go unbeaten against their nemesis. Meaningless when the Brasso is only needed in one trophy room, of course, but based on recent seasons the loss today is hardly unexpected.

 

[Magicpole]

Celtic are on the beach

On our arse.

 

[Magicpole]

Save for the first two seasons when Rangers were reincarnated and returned to the top flight, Celtic have been unable to go unbeaten against their nemesis. Meaningless when the Brasso is only needed in one trophy room, of course, but based on recent seasons the loss today is hardly unexpected.

When I saw the team sheet I knew we were fucked. My brother called the score.

 

[Gabriel]

When I saw the team sheet I knew we were fucked. My brother called the score.

The destination of the Cups would appear to have been dictated by the Old Firm meetings, but the League (Celtic 7 points Rangers 4) has been determined by performances against the remaining teams. Celtic only dropped 4 points while Rangers dropped 12, I think. Rangers’ form improved considerably after the break but the damage was already done.

Should both teams remain stable in terms of their managements, then the League might be a little closer next season.

 

[jimharri]

The destination of the Cups would appear to have been dictated by the Old Firm meetings, but the League (Celtic 7 points Rangers 4) has been determined by performances against the remaining teams. Celtic only dropped 4 points while Rangers dropped 12, I think. Rangers’ form improved considerably after the break but the damage was already done.

Should both teams remain stable in terms of their managements, then the League might be a little closer next season.

Van Bronkhorst (sp?) was disastrous for them. Beale seems to have done a good job steadying the ship. Next season could be more of a contest.

 

[GunnerGer]

Van Bronkhorst (sp?) was disastrous for them. Beale seems to have done a good job steadying the ship. Next season could be more of a contest.

Beale's games Vs Celtic have been close, drew with them first game with Celtic equalising in the last couple of mins, then lost by the odd goal in the other games. I might be wrong but I think Celtic have a point more than Rangers in the league since Beale came in. He's doing ok considering he's dealing with a lot of the squad going out of contract in the summer.

Today is what it is. It's always good to beat your rival, and mentally it's good for us to get a win against Celtic this season, but I won't be celebrating this victory while they pick up the 3 trophies this season. It's a bit of a marker, nothing more really.

 

[Gabriel]

Van Bronkhorst (sp?) was disastrous for them. Beale seems to have done a good job steadying the ship. Next season could be more of a contest.

Disastrous might be a little strong, no? He took them to a European final, no mean feat from a peripheral league, won them the Scottish Cup, and qualified for the CL group stages, though I do acknowledge that his pragmatic style of play was always going to be better suited to cup competitions and less likely to pressure Celtic in the League.

He also lost key players whose replacements have not matched what was expected of them, so I’ll hold off judging van Bronckhorst’s tenure until I see the quality of signings Rangers make this summer and how well Beale then does. It could be that the coach is only part of the problem at Ibrox and that they need to do significantly better in terms of player recruitment.

 

[jimharri]

Disastrous might be a little strong, no? He took them to a European final, no mean feat from a peripheral league, won them the Scottish Cup, and qualified for the CL group stages, though I do acknowledge that his pragmatic style of play was always going to be better suited to cup competitions and less likely to pressure Celtic in the League.

He also lost key players whose replacements have not matched what was expected of them, so I’ll hold off judging van Bronckhorst’s tenure until I see the quality of signings Rangers make this summer and how well Beale then does. It could be that the coach is only part of the problem at Ibrox and that they need to do significantly better in terms of player recruitment.

Looking at Rangers forums last autumn, most of their fans wanted him out. And they'd be more clued up about how their side was performing than I would. His solid start had petered out badly by that time.