Scottish independence

[TGR]

Non of these things prevented the formation of a Scottish,Welsh and Northern Irish Parliaments and then getting more money for their respective countries It is time the English majority were put first

Any chance you could answer my SPECIFIC question of a Labour GB Government and a Tory English Parliament?
For instance how would defence spending agreed by a Labour GB Government be funded when they have no powers over English taxation and so and so forth for other GB issues that require funding.

I never answered this point because just like with the regional Parliaments now some things that affect the UK remain with Westminster Defence spending to my Knowledge has not been devolved to Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland so why should it be devolved to an English Parliament.

But an English Parliament is one solution to the West Lothian Question but the easiest solution is and has always been the one that Labour find the most unpalatable I.E. Jock Welsh and Northern Irish MPs should not be allowed to vote on English Matters

just as English MPs cannot vote on devolved matters now

The matters have already been agreed upon Just let English MPs vote on the same areas that have already been devolved.
EG
A Scottish MP should not be allowed to vote on English Education as Education for Scotland has been devolved Simple really.
Not really to much to ask is it that England be treated the same as Scotland?

Of course it's not to much to ask. Your problem is that you are being objective and sensible. That doesn't go down well with the LWNJ's on here one little bit.
You will branded a 'little Englander' whilst every other minority can spout any old crap and that is acceptable.
The lefties do like to abuse, flame, bully and ridicule anyone and everyone who has the wherewithal to even think about disagreeing with them. It is par for the course with them.

 

[Len Rum]

Any chance you could answer my SPECIFIC question of a Labour GB Government and a Tory English Parliament?
For instance how would defence spending agreed by a Labour GB Government be funded when they have no powers over English taxation and so and so forth for other GB issues that require funding.

I never answered this point because just like with the regional Parliaments now some things that affect the UK remain with Westminster Defence spending to my Knowledge has not been devolved to Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland so why should it be devolved to an English Parliament.

But an English Parliament is one solution to the West Lothian Question but the easiest solution is and has always been the one that Labour find the most unpalatable I.E. Jock Welsh and Northern Irish MPs should not be allowed to vote on English Matters

just as English MPs cannot vote on devolved matters now

The matters have already been agreed upon Just let English MPs vote on the same areas that have already been devolved.
EG
A Scottish MP should not be allowed to vote on English Education as Education for Scotland has been devolved Simple really.
Not really to much to ask is it that England be treated the same as Scotland?

Of course it's not to much to ask. Your problem is that you are being objective and sensible. That doesn't go down well with the LWNJ's on here one little bit.
You will branded a 'little Englander' whilst every other minority can spout any old crap and that is acceptable.
The lefties do like to abuse, flame, bully and ridicule anyone and everyone who has the wherewithal to even think about disagreeing with them. It is par for the course with them.

What are you on TGR?
Could you recommend it?
I like a nice malt myself.

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

Any chance you could answer my SPECIFIC question of a Labour GB Government and a Tory English Parliament?
For instance how would defence spending agreed by a Labour GB Government be funded when they have no powers over English taxation and so and so forth for other GB issues that require funding.

I never answered this point because just like with the regional Parliaments now some things that affect the UK remain with Westminster Defence spending to my Knowledge has not been devolved to Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland so why should it be devolved to an English Parliament.

But an English Parliament is one solution to the West Lothian Question but the easiest solution is and has always been the one that Labour find the most unpalatable I.E. Jock Welsh and Northern Irish MPs should not be allowed to vote on English Matters

just as English MPs cannot vote on devolved matters now

The matters have already been agreed upon Just let English MPs vote on the same areas that have already been devolved.
EG
A Scottish MP should not be allowed to vote on English Education as Education for Scotland has been devolved Simple really.
Not really to much to ask is it that England be treated the same as Scotland?

Of course it's not to much to ask. Your problem is that you are being objective and sensible. That doesn't go down well with the LWNJ's on here one little bit.
You will branded a 'little Englander' whilst every other minority can spout any old crap and that is acceptable.
The lefties do like to abuse, flame, bully and ridicule anyone and everyone who has the wherewithal to even think about disagreeing with them. It is par for the course with them.

can you not spot a Muslim hater TGR?

All that crap he spouts about Xmas being cancelled, what a load of tosh, it's like the worst of facebook x 10.

I'm no Christian but I still have a Xmas tree, always have, no Muslims under my bed stopping me from doing anything, especially supporting Man City - those Muslims are great.

As for getting a handle on government tax and spending, he's clueless, as he thinks the English are unfairly treated somehow, despite being a lorry driver - have you ever been to Wales WHP?

I'm out anyway, only so many times you can out a xenophobe.

 

[whp.blue]

Any chance you could answer my SPECIFIC question of a Labour GB Government and a Tory English Parliament?
For instance how would defence spending agreed by a Labour GB Government be funded when they have no powers over English taxation and so and so forth for other GB issues that require funding.

I never answered this point because just like with the regional Parliaments now some things that affect the UK remain with Westminster Defence spending to my Knowledge has not been devolved to Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland so why should it be devolved to an English Parliament.

But an English Parliament is one solution to the West Lothian Question but the easiest solution is and has always been the one that Labour find the most unpalatable I.E. Jock Welsh and Northern Irish MPs should not be allowed to vote on English Matters

just as English MPs cannot vote on devolved matters now

The matters have already been agreed upon Just let English MPs vote on the same areas that have already been devolved.
EG
A Scottish MP should not be allowed to vote on English Education as Education for Scotland has been devolved Simple really.
Not really to much to ask is it that England be treated the same as Scotland?

Of course it's not to much to ask. Your problem is that you are being objective and sensible. That doesn't go down well with the LWNJ's on here one little bit.
You will branded a 'little Englander' whilst every other minority can spout any old crap and that is acceptable.
The lefties do like to abuse, flame, bully and ridicule anyone and everyone who has the wherewithal to even think about disagreeing with them. It is par for the course with them.

Well I doubt there are any left wing loonies who can bully me so they may have met their match I don't mind being called a little Englander I have never backed down from anyone and I wont back down from some pc keyboard warrior

I don't mind them trying to ridicule or even abusing me it used to bother me but then after an argument on this forum a while back one poster became very abusive I got really wound up and I tracked down my abuser only to find out that particular keyboard warrior was a sixteen year old boy. I realized very quickly that people say things on this forum they would probably never say to your face.

So now instead of getting all worked up I just stand my ground and if they don't like my views well tough.

 

[Balti]

if you believe that a scottish parliament is wonderful

then no doubt you feel an english one is too

so kick these scottish mp's out of the ''UK'' version till we get our own too

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

if you believe that a scottish parliament is wonderful

then no doubt you feel an english one is too

so kick these scottish mp's out of the ''UK'' version till we get our own too

I take it you don't need any chips with your balti mate, that massive one on your shoulder should srt you out for years.

Poor ickle mistreated englanders, nasty foreigners treading you down, ha ha ha ha ha.

 

[Balti]

if you believe that a scottish parliament is wonderful

then no doubt you feel an english one is too

so kick these scottish mp's out of the ''UK'' version till we get our own too

I take it you don't need any chips with your balti mate, that massive one on your shoulder should srt you out for years.

Poor ickle mistreated englanders, nasty foreigners treading you down, ha ha ha ha ha.

i just want equality pal

clearly that is a concept you bigots can't understand lol

 

[TGR]

I never answered this point because just like with the regional Parliaments now some things that affect the UK remain with Westminster Defence spending to my Knowledge has not been devolved to Scotland Wales or Northern Ireland so why should it be devolved to an English Parliament.

But an English Parliament is one solution to the West Lothian Question but the easiest solution is and has always been the one that Labour find the most unpalatable I.E. Jock Welsh and Northern Irish MPs should not be allowed to vote on English Matters

just as English MPs cannot vote on devolved matters now

The matters have already been agreed upon Just let English MPs vote on the same areas that have already been devolved.
EG
A Scottish MP should not be allowed to vote on English Education as Education for Scotland has been devolved Simple really.
Not really to much to ask is it that England be treated the same as Scotland?

Of course it's not to much to ask. Your problem is that you are being objective and sensible. That doesn't go down well with the LWNJ's on here one little bit.
You will branded a 'little Englander' whilst every other minority can spout any old crap and that is acceptable.
The lefties do like to abuse, flame, bully and ridicule anyone and everyone who has the wherewithal to even think about disagreeing with them. It is par for the course with them.

can you not spot a Muslim hater TGR?

All that crap he spouts about Xmas being cancelled, what a load of tosh, it's like the worst of facebook x 10.

I'm no Christian but I still have a Xmas tree, always have, no Muslims under my bed stopping me from doing anything, especially supporting Man City - those Muslims are great.

As for getting a handle on government tax and spending, he's clueless, as he thinks the English are unfairly treated somehow, despite being a lorry driver - have you ever been to Wales WHP?

I'm out anyway, only so many times you can out a xenophobe.

He just happens to have a view point and opinion that differs from yours.
It doesn't automatically make him a racist a bigot or xenophobic .
That's the problem with you lefties: zero tolerance to a viewpoint or perspective that differs from yours.

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

if you believe that a scottish parliament is wonderful

then no doubt you feel an english one is too

so kick these scottish mp's out of the ''UK'' version till we get our own too

I take it you don't need any chips with your balti mate, that massive one on your shoulder should srt you out for years.

Poor ickle mistreated englanders, nasty foreigners treading you down, ha ha ha ha ha.

i just want equality pal

clearly that is a concept you bigots can't understand lol

How on earth are you unfairly treated as a member of the United Kingdom and an Englishman, by other members of the countries of the union?

if you said the Tories were mistreating you as a working class person, then yes I would say you had a point, what with the gap between rich and poor getting wider every year, but to hate on the Welsh and scots, and Pads, well that is simply make believe and a personal psychological problem.

 

[Balti]

Of course it's not to much to ask. Your problem is that you are being objective and sensible. That doesn't go down well with the LWNJ's on here one little bit.
You will branded a 'little Englander' whilst every other minority can spout any old crap and that is acceptable.
The lefties do like to abuse, flame, bully and ridicule anyone and everyone who has the wherewithal to even think about disagreeing with them. It is par for the course with them.

can you not spot a Muslim hater TGR?

All that crap he spouts about Xmas being cancelled, what a load of tosh, it's like the worst of facebook x 10.

I'm no Christian but I still have a Xmas tree, always have, no Muslims under my bed stopping me from doing anything, especially supporting Man City - those Muslims are great.

As for getting a handle on government tax and spending, he's clueless, as he thinks the English are unfairly treated somehow, despite being a lorry driver - have you ever been to Wales WHP?

I'm out anyway, only so many times you can out a xenophobe.

He just happens to have a view point and opinion that differs from yours.
It doesn't automatically make him a racist a bigot or xenophobic .
That's the problem with you lefties: zero tolerance to a viewpoint or perspective that differs from yours.

in his case it probably does tbf

''hahahahahahahaha''

etc