Scottish independence

Ifwecouldjust....... said:
But if the don't get a currency union they won't have to pay it 'cos the debts belong to / are underwritten by the Bank of England...............One think Salmond isn't is daft..thats for sure

Does anyone think that the residual UK would allow Scotland to join the EU if they didn't take their share of the National Debt?

Does anyone think that the residual UK or the USA for that matter would allow Scotland NATO membership if they
insist on the removal of Trident?

Salmond may be a very cute political animal but he really would be playing with the big boys if this "divorce" turns nasty.
 
The other half was up at Faslane not long ago with work
She was telling me it would cost upwards of £20 billion to decommission it & scotland could foot some of the bill,its one big nightmare if they voted yes for the MoD...
 
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Blue Maverick said:
Let them vote YES pull out all our troops and nuclear subs then invade them and use Scotland as a dumping ground for all the not rights and illegal immigrants we don't want.
Like Australia but with lakes, mountains and midges
 
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
But if the don't get a currency union they won't have to pay it 'cos the debts belong to / are underwritten by the Bank of England...............One think Salmond isn't is daft..thats for sure

Does anyone think that the residual UK would allow Scotland to join the EU if they didn't take their share of the National Debt?

Does anyone think that the residual UK or the USA for that matter would allow Scotland NATO membership if they
insist on the removal of Trident?

Salmond may be a very cute political animal but he really would be playing with the big boys if this "divorce" turns nasty.


Correct. The Scots will be su.ply mad to allow the breakup of the union and it will be a bad thing for the wider world. They already gave their parliament and national identity. But what annoys me most is thus co stang slaggjng off by Salmond and co. Not asi gle pisitive comment about three hundred plus years of Great Britain and all the fantastic things achieved not to mention working together to defeat the Nazis etc. Had they gone about it differently then no problem but the anti English and British sentiment is shameful and it has turned Scotland I to a djivided nation nomatter the outcome as I would imagine the unionists will go on referring to Scotland as British despite Salnond.
 
peter.evans said:
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
But if the don't get a currency union they won't have to pay it 'cos the debts belong to / are underwritten by the Bank of England...............One think Salmond isn't is daft..thats for sure

Does anyone think that the residual UK would allow Scotland to join the EU if they didn't take their share of the National Debt?

Does anyone think that the residual UK or the USA for that matter would allow Scotland NATO membership if they
insist on the removal of Trident?

Salmond may be a very cute political animal but he really would be playing with the big boys if this "divorce" turns nasty.


Correct. The Scots will be su.ply mad to allow the breakup of the union and it will be a bad thing for the wider world. They already gave their parliament and national identity. But what annoys me most is thus co stang slaggjng off by Salmond and co. Not asi gle pisitive comment about three hundred plus years of Great Britain and all the fantastic things achieved not to mention working together to defeat the Nazis etc. Had they gone about it differently then no problem but the anti English and British sentiment is shameful and it has turned Scotland I to a djivided nation nomatter the outcome as I would imagine the unionists will go on referring to Scotland as British despite Salnond.


Ps apologies for the Allo Allo spelling mistakes !
 
Anyone who thinks that jocks will vote yes for a mythical fairer social aystem and not because they are anti english is deluded. True they mention westminster a lot but i work amongst hundreds of them and they do not like the english and see this as a chance to give us a kicking.
 
peter.evans said:
peter.evans said:
Wilf Wild 1937 said:
Does anyone think that the residual UK would allow Scotland to join the EU if they didn't take their share of the National Debt?

Does anyone think that the residual UK or the USA for that matter would allow Scotland NATO membership if they
insist on the removal of Trident?

Salmond may be a very cute political animal but he really would be playing with the big boys if this "divorce" turns nasty.


Correct. The Scots will be su.ply mad to allow the breakup of the union and it will be a bad thing for the wider world. They already gave their parliament and national identity. But what annoys me most is thus co stang slaggjng off by Salmond and co. Not asi gle pisitive comment about three hundred plus years of Great Britain and all the fantastic things achieved not to mention working together to defeat the Nazis etc. Had they gone about it differently then no problem but the anti English and British sentiment is shameful and it has turned Scotland I to a djivided nation nomatter the outcome as I would imagine the unionists will go on referring to Scotland as British despite Salnond.


Ps apologies for the Allo Allo spelling mistakes !
No problems here mate, a fair point well made.
 
blue cigar said:
Anyone who thinks that jocks will vote yes for a mythical fairer social aystem and not because they are anti english is deluded. True they mention westminster a lot but i work amongst hundreds of them and they do not like the english and see this as a chance to give us a kicking.
They'll be giving us an arse licking in 5 years.
 
can someone tell me if i have this right ?
scotland is largley full of labour voters, if they vote for independence then surely labour would never be re-elected to power without the support of the scots portion of votes ,
so , why does cameron campaign for the scots to stay in the UK ?

i suspect the tory supporters in scotland will be voting for independence as they will see that their vote is not ever going to count for much until then .
 
smeeagain said:
can someone tell me if i have this right ?
scotland is largley full of labour voters, if they vote for independence then surely labour would never be re-elected to power without the support of the scots portion of votes ,
so , why does cameron campaign for the scots to stay in the UK ?

i suspect the tory supporters in scotland will be voting for independence as they will see that their vote is not ever going to count for much until then .

Yeah, right, much better to be a Tory supporter in an independent Scotland, than a Tory supporter in a United Kingdom.
 
The perfect fumble said:
smeeagain said:
can someone tell me if i have this right ?
scotland is largley full of labour voters, if they vote for independence then surely labour would never be re-elected to power without the support of the scots portion of votes ,
so , why does cameron campaign for the scots to stay in the UK ?

i suspect the tory supporters in scotland will be voting for independence as they will see that their vote is not ever going to count for much until then .

Yeah, right, much better to be a Tory supporter in an independent Scotland, than a Tory supporter in a United Kingdom.

what was i thinking!!
 
The perfect fumble said:
SWP's back said:
Len Rum said:
Cameron - disastrous No campaign by Tories, not fighting for the Union with any conviction, devo max not on voting paper, timing of vote terrible. Now handing over the reins to Brown.To lose the Union is a massive loss of prestige to Britain and he would have overseen it. As Adam Boulton said it will be written on his tombstone.
Milliband - has really been invisible in the campaign and has been complacent and yet his party has more to lose politically than the Tories.i.e labour out of power for the foreseeable future.
I think Cameron and the Tories will, from a political point of view, more than see the silver side of that particular cloud as Labour lose 40 seats.

As stated, the Tories would have needed no coalition this time around and the results of 4 post war elections would have changed.

The Prime Minister who lost the Union will " more than see the silver side of that particular cloud"

He will?

Thank you, I find it a comfort to be reminded why the Tories are known as the Stupid Party
I don't do so bad.
 
I have learnt 2 verses of Flower of Scotland so i can move to the Socialist utopia is they vote yes.
 

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