Scottish independence

[kas_tippler]

If they make their bed I'd hope they're made to lie in it

 

[malg]

Would Salmond resign if the No vote wins? It would be the honourable thing go do.

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

Would Salmond resign if the No vote wins? It would be the honourable thing go do.

Maybe, but they will carry on whining until they get their own way

 

[Balti]

Would Salmond resign if the No vote wins? It would be the honourable thing go do.

Maybe, but they will carry on whining until they get their own way

they can fuck off

if they vote no then we need to be consulted about what we are prepared to tolerate and whether their demands for an ever increasing share of the UK wealth are acceptable (they're fucking not)

I hope they vote yes now so they can stop fucking whinging at us and find out that actually their own nation will be just as shit without us

probably more so

bye

 

[smudgedj]

Would Salmond resign if the No vote wins? It would be the honourable thing go do.

Maybe, but they will carry on whining until they get their own way

They should have included the rest of the UK in the vote : they would have got their own way then.

 

[Ban-jani]

Would Salmond resign if the No vote wins? It would be the honourable thing go do.

Maybe, but they will carry on whining until they get their own way

they can fuck off

if they vote no then we need to be consulted about what we are prepared to tolerate and whether their demands for an ever increasing share of the UK wealth are acceptable (they're fucking not)

I hope they vote yes now so they can stop fucking whinging at us and find out that actually their own nation will be just as shit without us

probably more so

bye

What ever the vote, it'll be marginal, if they do vote yes then still over 45% of scots wanted to stay with us.

I feel for them.

 

[johnnytapia]

Yup. Ridiculous, isn't it.

And the other thing is, since at the moment we are all part of the UK, why does EVERYONE in the UK not have a vote on whether Scotland should become independent? It affects all of us.

It affects all of us. But you cant say that it affects us anything like as much as them. If they get it wrong it could have a hugely detrimental effect on their lives and the lives of their children. If we get it wrong the impact is marginal.

And there's vastly more of us than them. So if we had an equal say it would end up as being a purely English decision. Unless you made it so that one Scottish vote was the equivalent of say 20 rUK votes. Which would put a lot of people off.

If I had a vote I would probably vote YES. Not because I particularly want to see the break up of the Union. But I would find it interesting to observe from a distance how the experiment turns out. I would enjoy the political arguments, the rows over the currency, whether the EU would let them in etc. etc A YES vote would be so much more interesting than NO. But its not really a good reason for giving me a vote.

I share the same interest.

But honestly, watching a car crash is not a nice thing to do. Hoping there is one so you can watch it is even worse.

And @johnnyt: this is what 2 weeks of no footy does to me ;-). I'll be bored of all this Scotland nonsense as soon as a ball is kicked at the Emirates tomorrow. I've hardly ever visited the cellar and probably won't do much in future. Sighs of relief all round, I'm sure ;-)

Ha! Ha! I'd sell my soul for City. Yes, once the Blues (City, not Cameron et al) take the field, politics becomes secondary, tertiary...

 

[aguero93:20]

What about Eckersley Street, ad infinitum...

Yup. Ridiculous, isn't it.

And the other thing is, since at the moment we are all part of the UK, why does EVERYONE in the UK not have a vote on whether Scotland should become independent? It affects all of us.

Because it's for the Scottish to decide, that's why it's called self-determination.

 

[Balti]

What about Eckersley Street, ad infinitum...

Yup. Ridiculous, isn't it.

And the other thing is, since at the moment we are all part of the UK, why does EVERYONE in the UK not have a vote on whether Scotland should become independent? It affects all of us.

Because it's for the Scottish to decide, that's why it's called self-determination.

but hang on it impacts on the rest of us too

and apparently *they* have expectations as to what *we* have to do next if they vote yes

fuck that

they need to consult us first or, surprise surprise, we might not actually give a shit what they want any more when they are johnny foreigner

I'm sure we won't tbh

 

[aguero93:20]

Yup. Ridiculous, isn't it.

And the other thing is, since at the moment we are all part of the UK, why does EVERYONE in the UK not have a vote on whether Scotland should become independent? It affects all of us.

Because it's for the Scottish to decide, that's why it's called self-determination.

but hang on it impacts on the rest of us too

and apparently *they* have expectations as to what *we* have to do next if they vote yes

fuck that

they need to consult us first or, surprise surprise, we might not actually give a shit what they want any more when they are johnny foreigner

I'm sure we won't tbh

Why should the Scots have to vote as an 11/1 numerical minority on their own independence? Would you want to see an EU wide referendum on UKs membership where the UK only made up 64 million of a population of over 500 million and the German vote would have more influence on the result than their own?
If they choose independence it's absolutely fuck all to do with England, Wales and Northern Ireland, because they'll be an independent nation.

 

[Juan King]

Scotland can fuck off as far as I am concerned! I hope they leave as can't be arsed with them anymore. Good luck to them, but if it goes tits up we had better not bail them out

 

[Balti]

Because it's for the Scottish to decide, that's why it's called self-determination.

but hang on it impacts on the rest of us too

and apparently *they* have expectations as to what *we* have to do next if they vote yes

fuck that

they need to consult us first or, surprise surprise, we might not actually give a shit what they want any more when they are johnny foreigner

I'm sure we won't tbh

Why should the Scots have to vote as an 11/1 numerical minority on their own independence? Would you want to see an EU wide referendum on UKs membership where the UK only made up 64 million of a population of over 500 million and the German vote would have more influence on the result than their own?
If they choose independence it's absolutely fuck all to do with England, Wales and Northern Ireland, because they'll be an independent nation.

ok

in which case they would need nothing at all from the rest of us not worthy of a vote on the matter

good luck then and goodbye

expect nowt from us who matter not

 

[George Hannah]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

 

[Rascal]

Probably more likely when they realise Boris Johnson might be there PM

 

[RandomJ]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

 

[hilts]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

 

[RandomJ]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

Wow just wow.

 

[Ducado]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

Eh? What a ridiculous statement

 

[hilts]

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

Wow just wow.

Good point i hadn't considered that argument

 

[Dubai Blue]

It'll be a comfortable no vote in my opinion. Won't be anywhere near as close as the media is making out.