Scottish Independence

[waspish]

What happens if they do get independence and stay in the eu?! Free movement of people when the uk dont want that! Adrian’s Wall have to be rebuilt ;))

 

[bluethrunthru]

Adrian’s Wall

WTF? Is that the Emperor Adrian? The one that succeeded Emperor Wayne?

 

[BobKowalski]

We've been talking about the Scottish mandate but Johnson has no UK mandate to sanction a referendum given he has a big majority on the basis that there'd be no Scottish referendum and Scexit would affect both parts of the UK.

We might see one around 2024 onwards (2027ish is my guess) if the SNP continue winning lots of votes and because I think the UK will then have the resources to deal with any Scexit.

In that time, the SNP should think about reducing their deficit if they want the Scottish people to believe that leaving the UK then joining the EU is a credible option. Although, I think as soon as they start making budget cutbacks, their vote share will drop so it's a bit of a catch 22 for them.

Scottish Tories and Tories as a whole ran on a ‘no Indy 2’ ticket and were roundly rejected by the Scottish electorate. SNP ran on a independence ticket and increased their vote share and seats. If Johnson has a mandate then so does Sturgeon. Blocking the issue just feeds into the SNP narrative. Engaging in meaningful discussions on further devolution, power sharing and a voice on Scottish issues on Brexit ie fishing rights would dissipate the narrative.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Scottish Tories and Tories as a whole ran on a ‘no Indy 2’ ticket and were roundly rejected by the Scottish electorate. SNP ran on a independence ticket and increased their vote share and seats. If Johnson has a mandate then so does Sturgeon. Blocking the issue just feeds into the SNP narrative. Engaging in meaningful discussions on further devolution, power sharing and a voice on Scottish issues on Brexit ie fishing rights would dissipate the narrative.

The strange thing is she now bangs on about the will of the people, yet for the last 3 years she's spent her time trying to block the will of the people, Perhaps a little hypocritical.

 

[smudgedj]

The strange thing is she now bangs on about the will of the people, yet for the last 3 years she's spent her time trying to block the will of the people, Perhaps a little hypocritical.

Even the Pope uses the expression "Are the SNP hypocritical cunts?" when faced with a statement of the obvious.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I reckon that'd be a factor to a lot of middle ground Scots in a vote in all honesty. Inconveniences of adjusting things like documentation and all.

There'll be a lot of invconvenience, if that's the right word, but it won't be apparent until it dawns on people and there isn't an alternative!

 

[waspish]

WTF? Is that the Emperor Adrian? The one that succeeded Emperor Wayne?

The brother of Hadrian

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

She certainly does get to much air time.. the press only need to play a recording of her to save her the bother of fresh quotes... she repeats the same f******* message every time

Unlike 'Lets Get Brexit Done' Johnson?

 

[Saddleworth2]

The strange thing is she now bangs on about the will of the people, yet for the last 3 years she's spent her time trying to block the will of the people, Perhaps a little hypocritical.

hardly hypocritical when the Scots rejected Brexit by a large margin don't you think?

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

We've been talking about the Scottish mandate but Johnson has no UK mandate to sanction a referendum given he has a big majority on the basis that there'd be no Scottish referendum and Scexit would affect both parts of the UK.

We might see one around 2024 onwards (2027ish is my guess) if the SNP continue winning lots of votes and because I think the UK will then have the resources to deal with any Scexit.

In that time, the SNP should think about reducing their deficit if they want the Scottish people to believe that leaving the UK then joining the EU is a credible option. Although, I think as soon as they start making budget cutbacks, their vote share will drop so it's a bit of a catch 22 for them.

They could get themselves out of deficit and in surplus within a couple of months .... once they stop paying the oil revenues to Westminster and retain it themselves.