Scottish Independence

Why does negotiating a FTA take precedence over Scotland’s democratic right?
Just seems sensible. If the renewed mandate for Scottish independence is based upon not liking brexit, then (to use remain speak) surely it would make sense to see what Brexit finally looks like after the fta/no agreement is thrashed out? It's only another year.
 
Why does negotiating a FTA take precedence over Scotland’s democratic right?
Why does Scotland's "democratic right" take precidence over the rest of the union, a union it voluntarily joined and democratically rejected leaving in 2016?

You sound like you want everything your own way. It's a fair compromise and helpful for people of Scotland to make an informed decision. The UK concludes an FTA with the EU. Then that FTA can be scrutinised by politicians/campaigners and have them judge whether being in an independent UK with an FTA with the EU is a better option than leaving the UK Union and rejoining the EU. Voters in Scotland can then look at both scenarios and see which one they prefer.

It's to ensure the correct decision is made, not one made rashly because of the attitude of "fook the Tories" the SNP keep spouting.
 
Why does negotiating a FTA take precedence over Scotland’s democratic right?

You have already been given the democratic right to decide and chose to stay.

If you think it's time to be independent and are using Brexit as the excuse it's probably best you see what future trading arrangements the UK will secure before deciding once again.
 
Why does negotiating a FTA take precedence over Scotland’s democratic right?
My view is the SNP know that it won't be in 2020, possibly not before the next Holyrood election in 21. By which time we'll either have a deal or no deal or Johnson will have needed to extend again. In the meantime they are quite happy asking and letting Johnson and Westminster keep refusing them, it will play well if and when we get another referendum.
 
It seems to me that the SNP want to push this through now in case it transpires that the prediction of post brexit apocalypse does not happen and they lose whatever flimsy mandate they feel they currently have. Whether the decision to remain in the last Scottish ref was a 'once in a lifetime'/generational decision is up for debate I suppose, but twice in a decade seems a lot. Also worth bearing in mind the SNP are basically like the brexit party, in that they have to bang on about leaving in order to sustain their own existence.
 
Why does Scotland's "democratic right" take precidence over the rest of the union, a union it voluntarily joined and democratically rejected leaving in 2016?

You sound like you want everything your own way. It's a fair compromise and helpful for people of Scotland to make an informed decision. The UK concludes an FTA with the EU. Then that FTA can be scrutinised by politicians/campaigners and have them judge whether being in an independent UK with an FTA with the EU is a better option than leaving the UK Union and rejoining the EU. Voters in Scotland can then look at both scenarios and see which one they prefer.

It's to ensure the correct decision is made, not one made rashly because of the attitude of "fook the Tories"
Thank you for speaking so wisely on behalf of the Scots who have utterly rejected the Tories and utterly reject Brexit. There is a mandate passed by the Scottish Parliament but I’m sure that will be set aside so we can follow your advice.
 
Thank you for speaking so wisely on behalf of the Scots who have utterly rejected the Tories and utterly reject Brexit. There is a mandate passed by the Scottish Parliament but I’m sure that will be set aside so we can follow your advice.
The Scots only actually gave the SNP 45% of the vote. If we had electoral reform/pr which is probably more badly needed throughout the UK than devolution, then the SNP would find themselves forming a minority govt or in coalition in Scotland. So hardly the majority of Scots support the SNP as some would have you think. They are the best supported/biggest party in Scotland on 45% of the vote, but 45% is not a majority.
 
Thank you for speaking so wisely on behalf of the Scots who have utterly rejected the Tories and utterly reject Brexit. There is a mandate passed by the Scottish Parliament but I’m sure that will be set aside so we can follow your advice.
Except they haven't utterly rejected brexit have they. Over 1m Scots voted in favour of leaving the EU and you cannot claim or conclude that a rejection of the Conservative Party meant a rejection of the decision to leave the EU. SNP members also voted to leave the EU back in 2016, would you ignore their voices, even though they voted SNP as well?

It's not as black and white as that. We will get to the issue of Scottish Independence in good time. First on the agenda is to leave the EU, conclude an FTA with the EU, and then we can address the state of our union. Patience.
 

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