Scottish Independence

Ban-jani said:
They’re two sides of the same coin.

UKIP are their closest political match.
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Both single issue parties with no idea on the finer if any details of what they promote. UKIP however are far more odious with the racists they attract due to the anti-immigration propaganda.

The difference being that our Scottish brethren have shown over two referendums that they (the majority) won't vote for the unknown, regardless of how many unicorns you try to sell to them.

I'd hope (but not expect) that they would have learnt from this and when/if another Indy Ref happens then they have negotiated in advance with Westminster and the EU so voters know exactly what leaving the union means and not just another arbitrary question.
 
Ban-jani said:
They’re two sides of the same coin.

UKIP are their closest political match.
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No they are not, there is a huge difference between being a pro-independence party and a nationalist party.

The SNP are nominally Social Democratic, albeit in a Nordic style. UKIP are a party of Libertarian Conservatism.

If they are two sides of the same coin perhaps you could explain why you think that.
 
Ban-jani said:
Go on then, give me a logical economic or social reason as to why they should leave the UK?
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There does not have to be a logical economic reason for a country to want self determination. The social reason is they are a separate nation with their own distinct identity that many feel has been subjugated into an overall British identity.

Throughout history people have always sought self determination, that is why we have separate countries. If the Scots want self determination who the fuck are we to deny them their rights, we let India, Pakistan, Jamaica, Canada, Australia and loads of other nations have that right, why on earth would denying the Scots that right be the proper thing to do. They are a distinct people inside a Union and if it is their wish to leave then they should be allowed.

I don't want Scotland to leave the Union anymore than I want the UK to leave the EU, but it is not up to us to decide their fate, it is up to them.
 
Rascal said:
They will be dancing in the streets of little Englander land at that thought. The consummate English Nationalist ideal. A pure English race, Hadrian's Wall rebuilt, Offa's Dyke renewed. The cross of St George fluttering from every lamp post in the land.

Ingerlund, Ingerlund, Ingerlund chanted loudly as the Stella is downed by the bucket load, red faced bald fat man crying at the strains of Jerusalem, this green and pleasant land.

God save the Queen.
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Would that Queen you mentioned be Elizabeth Saxe Coburg Gotha ? You know .... the one married to the Greek?






The fucking irony.
 
Ban-jani said:
I’m not calling the whole Scottish nation ungrateful cunts, I’m calling the SNP and their followers ungrateful cunts.

My Scottish, Manchester based pal also thinks they’re fucking idiots.

I’m fucking sick to the back teeth of them slagging England off at every opportunity.

The one benefit of them voting for yes, if they do, is that the look on their faces when they don’t have a currency and their economy crashes.
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No but they will have at least 25 years of oil revenue so I somehow doubt that their economy will crash
 
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