Scottish referees to strike next weekend ( no City content )

[MonkeyButler]

It's amazing how everything wrong in Scottish football comes down to Rangers and Celtic fans squabbling like kids. It's makes our rivalry with the rags look like a tea party.

Actually Rangers have taken nothing to do with this. Made no comments, had no attacks on any referees or accused any of being biased against them.

 

[aka blue jambo]

Do you know this for certain or is it more Celtic nonsense.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.philmacgiollabhain.com/hugh-dallas-offered-to-call-off-strike-if-his-case-dropped/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.philmacgiollabhain.com/hugh- ... e-dropped/</a>

Hugh Dallas and Stewart Regan had a blazing row on Monday at the SFA headquarters in Glasgow.


Hugh Dallas offered to call off the referees strike if his disciplinary hearing into the Pope email was called off.
On hearing this ultimatum an SFA insider said:
“Regan went ballistic!”
Regan’s exact words, overheard by many in the office were:
“How effing dare you! Don’t ever raise that again! Those two matters are totally unrelated!”
Hugh Dallas will hear his fate at 17.00hrs today in Glasgow.
In total eight people will be the subject of disciplinary hearings today.
I have learned that the Scottish Football Association has a very clear IT policy.
The passing on this email is clearly considered by Mr.Regan to be a “breach of the organisation’s IT policy.”
In recent weeks several staff were reminded of this policy of forwarding on offensive emails.
It was established inside the SFA that receiving such an email and opening it was no offence.
However forwarding it on would be considered an offence punishable from anything from a reprimand to dismissal.
I have also learned that if any of the other seven staff are dismissed for passing on this email then Mr.Dallas will also be dismissed."

Sending offensive emails about the pope may give it away.

did you honestly find the joke offensive? serious question

 

[CelticBhoyCityBlue]

Had the SFA acted right after the McDonald carry on at Tannadice none of this ensuing mess would have happened.

The SFA/Hugh Dallas cover up, and the lies told by McDonald and Dallas are the root cause. Them alone called all referee's integrity into question. If some kind of sanction had been taken on either one of them, i.e demoted, banned from doing games for 3 months, dismissed or whatever, it would have been enough to satisfy most or all SPL clubs. Instead it has escalated into what we have at present, a total shambles.

If the incident had happened to two teams say St.Mirren & Hamilton it wouldn't have received a quarter of the coverage it's received, however if you were a supporter of one of these clubs and had a penalty overturned, then have an explanation given to you which was a lie you'd likely feel the same way as Celtic do.

Another thing to consider here is, how legal is the referee strike? They aren't full time and are effectively self employed and paid per game by the SFA.

 

[DAFC-MCFC]

Really pissed off about this. Celtic (and a few other SPL clubs) have pretty much started this whole thing, but as usual, it is the smaller clubs who end up with there games cancelled, losing much needed revenue. Supposed to be going to see Dunfermline play Cowdenbeath, an all ticket local derby, but now a lot of people are having to change plans, with lots of fans already looking to claim refunds as they cant make a mid week game.

Our chairman has been on radio tonight and has been the first person related to another club who has openly come out and criticised Celtic for this whole thing. Quite right. Everyone else seems scared to say anything bad against them in the media. Cant wait to see what the west coast backlash is. Think we've already been labelled 'Hunfermline' tonight. I really, really hope they get a shit Isreali ref who awards 3 penaltys against them. Who will they complain to then?

Yorkston is a pain in the fukn arse.
He hates Celtic.
The feeling's mutual.

Can't really blame him. I hate them too. As does just about every fan of every other Scottish club right now.

 

[Glasgow Man City]

Another thing to consider here is, how legal is the referee strike? They aren't full time and are effectively self employed and paid per game by the SFA.

Perfectly, as it's not a strike, but a withdrawal of availability to work.

As you say, they're self employed so technically can choose when they work or don't work.<br /><br />-- Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:00 pm --<br /><br />Apparently

Alain Hamer, ref from Luxembourg apparently reffing both celtic and
rangers games. Meir Levy from Israel at Accies v St mirren.

 

[MonkeyButler]

Had the SFA acted right after the McDonald carry on at Tannadice none of this ensuing mess would have happened.

The SFA/Hugh Dallas cover up, and the lies told by McDonald and Dallas are the root cause. Them alone called all referee's integrity into question. If some kind of sanction had been taken on either one of them, i.e demoted, banned from doing games for 3 months, dismissed or whatever, it would have been enough to satisfy most or all SPL clubs. Instead it has escalated into what we have at present, a total shambles.

If the incident had happened to two teams say St.Mirren & Hamilton it wouldn't have received a quarter of the coverage it's received, however if you were a supporter of one of these clubs and had a penalty overturned, then have an explanation given to you which was a lie you'd likely feel the same way as Celtic do.

Another thing to consider here is, how legal is the referee strike? They aren't full time and are effectively self employed and paid per game by the SFA.

Wrong. This has received so much covereage because Lennon and Reid keep banging on about it.
At the end of the day Dougie McDonald and the linesman made the correct decision to not award the penalty to Celtic. Who cares what he told Lennon afterwards?

 

[razinho]

Do they have anything like that in the English Premiership.
It will be interesting to see what happens with foreign refs this weekend.Love to see one crossing himself before the Rangers game.

I'm sure they do. I don't think it's revealed publicly, some refs allegiances are well known. Didn't/doesn't Mark Halsey train with the Bolton team, so he never officiates a Bolton match?

I think it's known that some refs support a certain team so they never officiate that match, and most refs don't officiate a game within x miles of where they live?

I think it's far-fetched to say referees are biased against one particular team, I think they just aren't being judged fairly. Referees make judgements on what they see in one instant, but are judged by several camera angles and replays. It's not fair on the refs.

I can see this rumbling on for a few years until FIFA eventually bring in some level of video technology to help top-flight referees.

Its too difficult to name which team a referee supports in Scotland then saying they can't officiate at games with this team. Most will come from Edinburgh, Glasgow, Motherwell, Dundee or Aberdeen or close to these places. You would then assume they'd support one of the SPL teams, in the 5 places i named that includes more than half the SPL.

This differs from England where referees come from a range of places with big teams situated in the one place meaning there's a bigger choice and ultimately mean they can officiate in more games.

 

[CelticBhoyCityBlue]

Had the SFA acted right after the McDonald carry on at Tannadice none of this ensuing mess would have happened.

The SFA/Hugh Dallas cover up, and the lies told by McDonald and Dallas are the root cause. Them alone called all referee's integrity into question. If some kind of sanction had been taken on either one of them, i.e demoted, banned from doing games for 3 months, dismissed or whatever, it would have been enough to satisfy most or all SPL clubs. Instead it has escalated into what we have at present, a total shambles.

If the incident had happened to two teams say St.Mirren & Hamilton it wouldn't have received a quarter of the coverage it's received, however if you were a supporter of one of these clubs and had a penalty overturned, then have an explanation given to you which was a lie you'd likely feel the same way as Celtic do.

Another thing to consider here is, how legal is the referee strike? They aren't full time and are effectively self employed and paid per game by the SFA.

Wrong. This has received so much covereage because Lennon and Reid keep banging on about it.
At the end of the day Dougie McDonald and the linesman made the correct decision to not award the penalty to Celtic. Who cares what he told Lennon afterwards?

I'm not going to get into a "i'm right & you're wrong" game with you. As someone who favours the other half of the O/f from me I don't expect a balanced opinion from you.

To clarify, you're saying that it was perfectly acceptable for a referee to lie to an SPL manager, then cover it up along with the Senior offical (Dallas) with a bullshit story, hang a colleague out to dry and make him the scapegoat (Craven), then try and backtrack? And you don't think that calls into question the integrity of any Scottish official? Jesus wept.

What to do is turn the situation around. If that was a penalty awarded to Rangers for a foul on say, Kenny Miller , then the ref changes his mind via consultation with his linesman/assistant ref, instead he awards a drop ball with no Rangers player in the vicinity of said drop ball. You're saying there would be no coverage in the media or complaint made by Rangers? That Mr Dignity himself, Walter no-surname would accept such a change of heart? Do us a favour. Rangers and Smith have remained silent as they can have no major complaints so far this season as far as refereeing decisons go both for and against them.

 

[ManCityRangers]

anyway, back on topic, rangers and celtic should hang their heads in shame. the abuse the officials get from the staff, players and supporters of these clubs is way beyond acceptable.

its only celtic that abuse the refs, that neil lennon cant keep his mouth shut and has been banned for 3 weeks for it

walter always defends the refs as does craig brown of motherwell, the rest are fine too

 

[mancityscot]

i like celtic, second favourite scottish team aside from the mighty hibs<br /><br />-- Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:45 pm --<br /><br />breaking news on SSN - portuguese ref and officials have returned home. they were supposed to take charge of hibs vs st johnstone (FFS) and a game in sunday.

this cannot be happening