Season Ticket Renewals - small increases (again)

[dickie davies]

But without that £1.6 mill last seasons £1 mill profit would have been a loss of 0.6 mill

Pay the players half of a percent less

£250M in wages. Half of a percent of this is £1.25M
Deduct it directly from their salary and call it a solidarity payment
They keep telling us how important we are. Well show it!

 

[jrb]

Thats all true but its still only the profit that matters, revenue has nothing to do with it. Take the price rises off the profit for the true picture.

Our annual revenues are now over £500mill and climbing.

We made a £10mill operating profit 2017-18.

We’ve just signed a £65mill, £650mill 10 year kit deal, if those facts are true?

We’ve just had record PL, CL and domestic cup prize money.

We’ve just had record TV revenue.

We’ve signed numerous new sponsors.

The CFA is churning out young players for sale.

I could go on.

So what is the £800k or £1mill for from another season ticket price increase?

I’m Looking forward to our next annual revenue figures and increased profit.

 

[Marvin]

I think the question fans need to ask is do we want to be like the rags, soul less prawn muncher's? Only the rich and middle classes able to afford tickets?
You only have to look at the appointment of twats like Hugh Ferris to see that decisions like season ticket prices are being decided by Marketing twats, who see fans as lines on graphs, and segments of fuckin pie charts...

Ultimately that is what we are though because football was commercialised many years ago

You are doing the David Conn/Workers co-operative and asking City's board to run their club according to a supporters agenda. If City did that, we'd ultimately be in trouble. All those Co-operatives end up screwing their own workforce. Decent people but forced by the world we live in to do what no one wants to do.

Labour Party supporters always think they can get the system to work better for the people. They can't. The social democrats have been trying for over 100 years, and every time they fail. That's not a message in support of conservatism either. It's an acknowledgement of how this system works. If you don't like it change it, but don't think you can reform it and make it work for you. Sorry, a bit of a departure from the usual discussion but that's my philosophical reasoning for not getting angry about price freezes. You could do it for a season or two, but before long, you'd find yourselves in trouble.

The natural world obeys the laws of nature. It is scientists job to discover them. The man made world, also follows certain laws, and humanity has been rather less successful in interpreting them, and argues endlessly about it largely because social scientists are inept (journalists calibre). Once you've discovered stars and the beauty of the natural world, humanity's problems pale into comparison, although from time to time war, and conflict impose themselves on everyone......see Einstein and the Manhattan Project recruited to create the atom bomb to stop a competitor getting it. And how they regretted it later.

 

[canyerdogputoutafire]

Ultimately that is what we are though because football was commercialised many years ago

You are doing the David Conn/Workers co-operative and asking City's board to run their club according to a supporters agenda. If City did that, we'd ultimately be in trouble. All those Co-operatives end up screwing their own workforce. Decent people but forced by the world we live in to do what no one wants to do.

Labour Party supporters always think they can get the system to work better for the people. They can't. The social democrats have been trying for over 100 years, and every time they fail. That's not a message in support of conservatism either. It's an acknowledgement of how this system works. If you don't like it change it, but don't think you can reform it and make it work for you. Sorry, a bit of a departure from the usual discussion but that's my philosophical reasoning for not getting angry about price freezes. You could do it for a season or two, but before long, you'd find yourselves in trouble.

The natural world obeys the laws of nature. It is scientists job to discover them. The man made world, also follows certain laws, and humanity has been rather less successful in interpreting them, and argues endlessly about it largely because social scientists are inept (journalists calibre). Once you've discovered stars and the beauty of the natural world, humanity's problems pale into comparison, although from time to time war, and conflict impose themselves on everyone......see Einstein and the Manhattan Project recruited to create the atom bomb to stop a competitor getting it. And how they regretted it later.

Gold or platinum then?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

I asked them about extending the deal until the North Stand was extended but they weren't having it. The problem with relocating the day before is that no-one else will have moved out of their seats, so the only available seats will be those that haven't been renewed.

Exactly. At best you will probably get top tier on the side towards the back. From where you were to where you are heading through no fault of your own is a joke.

 

[Marvin]

Gold or platinum then?

Front row discounted seat. £515.

 

[ken_barnes]

Certainly good value mate, without a doubt.

What's the view like though? I'm concerned about a relocation as we love our current seats. The people around us too are very decent. But the time may come where we simply have to relocate and another part of the stadium will have to be considered.

I'm thinking that the view from up there will be a huge difference to what we're used to.

The view is a decent one (as is most of the ground tbh) We're in row Z. I've sat further down in cup games, around row D etc, and tbh that's a better view. But the price difference isn't worth it for me. Also the atmosphere is good where we are.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Why introduce platinum tickets then and allow people to buy loyalty points?

You know these droves of people with really deep pockets the club is trying to recruit?

Where have they been all these years?

Why have they never been supporters before?

Where have they been hiding?

The assertion being made by some, that City wants to force thousands of loyal fans to disengage makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

What if 20,000 disengage but then all these rich people who’ve been hiding for years don’t actually come forward and fill the gap left by the 20,000 who have fucked off?

That would be one incredibly risky strategy and one a club as well run as ours wouldn’t entertain.

 

[dickie davies]

I asked them about extending the deal until the North Stand was extended but they weren't having it. The problem with relocating the day before is that no-one else will have moved out of their seats, so the only available seats will be those that haven't been renewed.

There are two seats on my row which are only occupied for half the matches
Block 104
Row W
Seats 78 & 79
Ask about these

And there's one on row V in front which is nearly always unoccupied. That'll be either 77 or 78

 

[Silva2021]

I understand why the club put it up. If it’s only a million a year it makes an extra 6 million over 3, 10 over 4 and 15 over 5.

The quality of the football is second to none so I don’t begrudge it.

Others it can be can’t over won’t and the extra money be it 10-20 can be considered small but is a fair increase over the last 5 years.

Hope fans don’t get priced out of this.