Season Tickets - 2025/26 | Changes to ticket transfer this season (p101)

Yeah to register entry the turnstile would have to go round a circuit after its scanned I presume.
Most gate entrance systems would record it as timed out or similar if nobody actually passes through the gate/gap or a turnstile does not rotate i think.
So fine to let someone else through, i'm sure most of us have done that for non members we've brought along occasionally, but not if you'd not got any taker for the ticket of someone who couldn't make it, but wanted to mark them as 'in' - unless you can push the turnstile round, which might attract the attention of a steward either side to ask what you're up to
Utd stewards don't seem to have a problem
 
It would count towards your 16 game criteria for utilisation of the season ticket, but next season there's also a mandatory 10 game personal attendance criteria. That's what people are more up in arms over.

If they're increasing this 14 game to 16 criteria then I believe you should be able to list it on the exchange on the day of the game itself. People get ill, stuck in traffic, kids/elders to care for etc.
Thanks. I understand now.

What's really disappointing from reading here is that if the club had a sensible approach to this, there would be a perfectly workable solution using flexi-season tickets. All of the people (and there's a lot more than I thought there would be) saying they can't attend 10 matches easily due to distance travelled, work & family commitments etc should move onto a flexi-ticket that allows them to miss games without incurring cost or risk leaving an empty seat. That would free up seats for locals or whoever to attend. Season tickets are therefore on offer to those who are fortunate enough to be able to attend pretty much every home game.

But for that to happen, there would need to be an easy fliexible route to swap flexi tickets for full season tickets, a sensible pricing structure for the flexi ticket itself (not £150) , and the add-on prices for the games that are attended need to be sensible as well. Something the club aren't appraently willing to do.

And from the fans side, assuming the flexi ticket could be swapped to/from a full ST every season, there would be a willingness to pick the flexi ticket if it suited their circumstances - like the clear many hundreds of ST holders that have recently posted about being unable to even reach 10 games personally.

I'm sure the club's issue with ST holders not attending is that they offer a discounted price for bulk buying, and, instead of attending, people give the seat away for a reduced cost to mates. A bit like buying a chicken at a supermarket on a buy one get one free deal, and then standing at the entrance selling the other one. Clearly, that's not what most do, but from the club's view it is...

A sensible pricing structure and flexible swapping each season of season tickets and flexi-tickets, together with a proper structured friends and family scheme could have and should have avoided all this...
 
Thanks. I understand now.

What's really disappointing from reading here is that if the club had a sensible approach to this, there would be a perfectly workable solution using flexi-season tickets. All of the people (and there's a lot more than I thought there would be) saying they can't attend 10 matches easily due to distance travelled, work & family commitments etc should move onto a flexi-ticket that allows them to miss games without incurring cost or risk leaving an empty seat. That would free up seats for locals or whoever to attend. Season tickets are therefore on offer to those who are fortunate enough to be able to attend pretty much every home game.

But for that to happen, there would need to be an easy fliexible route to swap flexi tickets for full season tickets, a sensible pricing structure for the flexi ticket itself (not £150) , and the add-on prices for the games that are attended need to be sensible as well. Something the club aren't appraently willing to do.

And from the fans side, assuming the flexi ticket could be swapped to/from a full ST every season, there would be a willingness to pick the flexi ticket if it suited their circumstances - like the clear many hundreds of ST holders that have recently posted about being unable to even reach 10 games personally.

I'm sure the club's issue with ST holders not attending is that they offer a discounted price for bulk buying, and, instead of attending, people give the seat away for a reduced cost to mates. A bit like buying a chicken at a supermarket on a buy one get one free deal, and then standing at the entrance selling the other one. Clearly, that's not what most do, but from the club's view it is...

A sensible pricing structure and flexible swapping each season of season tickets and flexi-tickets, together with a proper structured friends and family scheme could have and should have avoided all this...

I'm all for utilisation of the season ticket. If you can't make the game you should go to the effort of transferring it or putting it on the exchange. Unfortunately the club are dressing this up as helping out the fanbase when in reality most are clearly hitting the 14 game requirement so they've now upped it to 16 and brought in the 10 game personal attendance. It's hard not to see this as a concerted effort to reduce season ticket numbers when they've stated they aren't releasing new ones. If the season tickets were recycled to a new holder I wouldn't view it with as much scepticism.

I genuinely don't think they've thought this through properly. People have been literally giving tickets away this season on the face value sites as demand has dropped. Apart from 4 or 5 games a season there isn't the demand there that they think there is. They clearly want to cash in on the glamour ties even if it is at the expense of attendances for the other fixtures. It really is bizarre with the new stand opening next year and it'd be common sense to see how attendances went with that before bringing in these new measures.
 
I'm all for utilisation of the season ticket. If you can't make the game you should go to the effort of transferring it or putting it on the exchange. Unfortunately the club are dressing this up as helping out the fanbase when in reality most are clearly hitting the 14 game requirement so they've now upped it to 16 and brought in the 10 game personal attendance. It's hard not to see this as a concerted effort to reduce season ticket numbers when they've stated they aren't releasing new ones. If the season tickets were recycled to a new holder I wouldn't view it with as much scepticism.

I genuinely don't think they've thought this through properly. People have been literally giving tickets away this season on the face value sites as demand has dropped. Apart from 4 or 5 games a season there isn't the demand there that they think there is. They clearly want to cash in on the glamour ties even if it is at the expense of attendances for the other fixtures. It really is bizarre with the new stand opening next year and it'd be common sense to see how attendances went with that before bringing in these new measures.
It seems to me that the club are trying to stop the exchange sites on Facebook & Twitter, & by doing so have alienated a lot of the fanbase who for one reason or another are unable to make 10 games in person.

Fans have possibly made decisions to work or move away on the basis that they might not make 10 in person but knowingly can pass the games they can't make to other blues at below the match day prices.
 
It seems to me that the club are trying to stop the exchange sites on Facebook & Twitter, & by doing so have alienated a lot of the fanbase who for one reason or another are unable to make 10 games in person.

Fans have possibly made decisions to work or move away on the basis that they might not make 10 in person but knowingly can pass the games they can't make to other blues at below the match day prices.

Yes, there's that and knowing they are unlikely to get one back again if they do let it go. The ridiculous matchday prices have probably overexaggerated the demand for season tickets. If matchday prices were more sensible and there was genuine ticket availability for ALL games there wouldn't be as much clamour for one.

The club are sending out emails constantly at the moment. Apparently I can buy 4 tickets for Villa tomorrow!!! This is potentially our biggest game of the season and they're clearly struggling to shift the 12k or so matchday tickets currently. With an extra 8K to fill next season the last thing you should be doing is coming down hard on season ticket holders. I'm sure there's plenty of demand for tickets and could sell 20K as matchday tickets if they're priced accordingly, but expecting people to pay £71-88 for Villa..... no chance.
 
With the price freeze announced, I wonder how they deal with pricing for the new seats in the North Stand?

Assuming they are available from mid season if it all goes to plan.

Seats there have been cheaper than the equivalents in the South Stand due to the 'family stand' pricing.

Can't see the club continuing with that somehow.

There doesn't appear to have been any information released. But I'm sure at this stage they will have a plan.

My bet would go on a money grab on the North Stand to recoup what they've lost with the price freeze.
 
Yes, there's that and knowing they are unlikely to get one back again if they do let it go. The ridiculous matchday prices have probably overexaggerated the demand for season tickets. If matchday prices were more sensible and there was genuine ticket availability for ALL games there wouldn't be as much clamour for one.

The club are sending out emails constantly at the moment. Apparently I can buy 4 tickets for Villa tomorrow!!! This is potentially our biggest game of the season and they're clearly struggling to shift the 12k or so matchday tickets currently. With an extra 8K to fill next season the last thing you should be doing is coming down hard on season ticket holders. I'm sure there's plenty of demand for tickets and could sell 20K as matchday tickets if they're priced accordingly, but expecting people to pay £71-88 for Villa..... no chance.
If we presume after season tickets, concessions & away fans, there are 15k match day tickets, the club will make more money from 90% sale of those at £70 than they do with it full at £50. Whether that makes a difference to the match day income brought in from food & alcohol on the concourse, I'm not sure
 
If we presume after season tickets, concessions & away fans, there are 15k match day tickets, the club will make more money from 90% sale of those at £70 than they do with it full at £50. Whether that makes a difference to the match day income brought in from food & alcohol on the concourse, I'm not sure
True, but the optics of that are terrible, and I believe Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon want to create a positive image around the world. That would not be possible with a stadium nearly a quarter empty. There are certain individuals in the club (one in particular) who have gone down a rabbit hole in an attempt to generate short-term revenue at the expense of everything else. I still feel there are those above who want something more substantial and long-term, and they need to get a handle on the situation.
 
Thank you Alex. You’re doing a great job fighting for the fans on all fronts.

You and a few others really shouldn’t be having to do this all on your own though.

KP’s (supposed supporters club representative) and AW’s (supposed season ticket representative) silence is defeaning.

Their inaction on this and many other issues is a disgrace and they should both be asked to resign.

100%. The power this would have had if those two had got on board would be massive. The fact they haven't and still say nothing, join the protests etc. I'm certain they're acting in self interest
 
The way it's going the club should be firing out season ticket offers.

We're going to end up with a nice big shiny stand and apart from half a dozen games empty seats at home.

Now there's no guarantee SC holders will all turn out for some night games/middle of winter as everyone has their reasons and limits but surely there's a better way to utilise the exchange? Maybe set a resale price at 25% over the SC 1/19th price of the seat & give people who put seats on the exchange £5? As in incentive to use it.

On another note seems there's 4k+ seats available tonight, wtf are our 9 ticketing partners doing?
 
The way it's going the club should be firing out season ticket offers.

We're going to end up with a nice big shiny stand and apart from half a dozen games empty seats at home.

Now there's no guarantee SC holders will all turn out for some night games/middle of winter as everyone has their reasons and limits but surely there's a better way to utilise the exchange? Maybe set a resale price at 25% over the SC 1/19th price of the seat & give people who put seats on the exchange £5? As in incentive to use it.

On another note seems there's 4k+ seats available tonight, wtf are our 9 ticketing partners doing?
Sending the tickets back to the club they can't shift.
 
Thanks. I understand now.

What's really disappointing from reading here is that if the club had a sensible approach to this, there would be a perfectly workable solution using flexi-season tickets. All of the people (and there's a lot more than I thought there would be) saying they can't attend 10 matches easily due to distance travelled, work & family commitments etc should move onto a flexi-ticket that allows them to miss games without incurring cost or risk leaving an empty seat. That would free up seats for locals or whoever to attend. Season tickets are therefore on offer to those who are fortunate enough to be able to attend pretty much every home game.

But for that to happen, there would need to be an easy fliexible route to swap flexi tickets for full season tickets, a sensible pricing structure for the flexi ticket itself (not £150) , and the add-on prices for the games that are attended need to be sensible as well. Something the club aren't appraently willing to do.

And from the fans side, assuming the flexi ticket could be swapped to/from a full ST every season, there would be a willingness to pick the flexi ticket if it suited their circumstances - like the clear many hundreds of ST holders that have recently posted about being unable to even reach 10 games personally.

I'm sure the club's issue with ST holders not attending is that they offer a discounted price for bulk buying, and, instead of attending, people give the seat away for a reduced cost to mates. A bit like buying a chicken at a supermarket on a buy one get one free deal, and then standing at the entrance selling the other one. Clearly, that's not what most do, but from the club's view it is...

A sensible pricing structure and flexible swapping each season of season tickets and flexi-tickets, together with a proper structured friends and family scheme could have and should have avoided all this...
That's a really good tip about the chickens. Thanks.
 
Thanks. I understand now.

What's really disappointing from reading here is that if the club had a sensible approach to this, there would be a perfectly workable solution using flexi-season tickets. All of the people (and there's a lot more than I thought there would be) saying they can't attend 10 matches easily due to distance travelled, work & family commitments etc should move onto a flexi-ticket that allows them to miss games without incurring cost or risk leaving an empty seat. That would free up seats for locals or whoever to attend. Season tickets are therefore on offer to those who are fortunate enough to be able to attend pretty much every home game.

But for that to happen, there would need to be an easy fliexible route to swap flexi tickets for full season tickets, a sensible pricing structure for the flexi ticket itself (not £150) , and the add-on prices for the games that are attended need to be sensible as well. Something the club aren't appraently willing to do.

And from the fans side, assuming the flexi ticket could be swapped to/from a full ST every season, there would be a willingness to pick the flexi ticket if it suited their circumstances - like the clear many hundreds of ST holders that have recently posted about being unable to even reach 10 games personally.

I'm sure the club's issue with ST holders not attending is that they offer a discounted price for bulk buying, and, instead of attending, people give the seat away for a reduced cost to mates. A bit like buying a chicken at a supermarket on a buy one get one free deal, and then standing at the entrance selling the other one. Clearly, that's not what most do, but from the club's view it is...

A sensible pricing structure and flexible swapping each season of season tickets and flexi-tickets, together with a proper structured friends and family scheme could have and should have avoided all this...
Good points and sensible suggestions. But even if some season ticket holders are sharing their seat in the way you say, there are plenty of others who put their seat on the exchange to be sold at match day price if not hospitality. And the club make way more money out of this than from a season ticket holder who goes to every game. So it seems strange to target people like that. OK, people like me.
 
Good points and sensible suggestions. But even if some season ticket holders are sharing their seat in the way you say, there are plenty of others who put their seat on the exchange to be sold at match day price if not hospitality. And the club make way more money out of this than from a season ticket holder who goes to every game. So it seems strange to target people like that. OK, people like me.

We see our season ticket price as the market price for a bum on a seat to watch the match.We think the club are profiteering by selling tickets at the walk-up match day prices.

The club see the match-day price as the market price for a bum on a seat. They see season tickets as a bulk buy discount, which in their mind is being abused by us letting non-ST holders use our seat.

Thats why it makes sense to have a sensible middle ground that doesn't piss either side off - flexi tickets that don't cost huge extra amounts to buy and easy to hand back to the club to sell on to "premium customers", season tickets that reflect the loyal fan base who deserve a discount price for their loyalty, support and to attract those who will do so for many years to come at prices that are affordable to all.
 
Thanks. I understand now.

What's really disappointing from reading here is that if the club had a sensible approach to this, there would be a perfectly workable solution using flexi-season tickets. All of the people (and there's a lot more than I thought there would be) saying they can't attend 10 matches easily due to distance travelled, work & family commitments etc should move onto a flexi-ticket that allows them to miss games without incurring cost or risk leaving an empty seat. That would free up seats for locals or whoever to attend. Season tickets are therefore on offer to those who are fortunate enough to be able to attend pretty much every home game.

But for that to happen, there would need to be an easy fliexible route to swap flexi tickets for full season tickets, a sensible pricing structure for the flexi ticket itself (not £150) , and the add-on prices for the games that are attended need to be sensible as well. Something the club aren't appraently willing to do.

And from the fans side, assuming the flexi ticket could be swapped to/from a full ST every season, there would be a willingness to pick the flexi ticket if it suited their circumstances - like the clear many hundreds of ST holders that have recently posted about being unable to even reach 10 games personally.

I'm sure the club's issue with ST holders not attending is that they offer a discounted price for bulk buying, and, instead of attending, people give the seat away for a reduced cost to mates. A bit like buying a chicken at a supermarket on a buy one get one free deal, and then standing at the entrance selling the other one. Clearly, that's not what most do, but from the club's view it is...

A sensible pricing structure and flexible swapping each season of season tickets and flexi-tickets, together with a proper structured friends and family scheme could have and should have avoided all this...
Great post. The original initial proposal around Flexi-Gold was specifically designed to address these very issues. But instead of taking that, and actively working with the CM reps to build on it, the club sat on it then came out with a scheme that wasn't fit for purpose.

One of my friends moved down to London a few months ago, so they could be near their kids and grandkids. Another season ticket-holding friend has lived down there for many years. It's highly unlikely they'll attend most midweek games so Flexi-Gold would have been attractive to them if designed properly, with benefits to the club and the fans. But the current implementation is one-sided, and only benefits the club.

With the proposed requirement to make 10 personal attendances, both of them will be thinking hard about renewal. No doubt that's what the club would like but at the current pricing structure they're going to struggle to sell those seats for all but a handful of games.
 
The way it's going the club should be firing out season ticket offers.

We're going to end up with a nice big shiny stand and apart from half a dozen games empty seats at home.

Now there's no guarantee SC holders will all turn out for some night games/middle of winter as everyone has their reasons and limits but surely there's a better way to utilise the exchange? Maybe set a resale price at 25% over the SC 1/19th price of the seat & give people who put seats on the exchange £5? As in incentive to use it.

On another note seems there's 4k+ seats available tonight, wtf are our 9 ticketing partners doing?
My sister and nephew ( aged 19 ) wanted to come tonight lwith us,I told her over the weekend cheapest tickets are £71 and £53 18 to 21 . £ 124 for them, she just laughed.
 

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