Seko Fofana

People are obviously entitled to their own opinions but I wouldn't write off the loan move. He's more likely to get gametime at Fulham and he will learn a vital lesson if it's at a club fighting to stay up. He will learn how to grind out results and the physicality of the Championship will be a good test for our young players. Most players can create and score in abundance when playing in a top team and with great players around them. If he has to work extremely hard to get the ball and to do something with it then when he joins City with the talent we have he will have valuable skills under his belt.

Yes it would be great for him to be on loan at Southampton or somewhere like that, but at his age game time is the most important thing. Winning is obviously crucial but Fulham shouldn't be where they are and hopefully he can help turn it around. I'm not overly convinced he will ever play for our first team, but I do think he is capable of having a great career in football. It's the consistency that is key and he will have to develop that at Fulham because that's exactly what they need.
 
Symons used to coach at junior level, and did a good job of it too. I am sure he has watched Fofana a few times so he must have faith in his ability.
 
Ray78 said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
Ray78 said:
A good move and a good test but If he was that talented he wouldn't of been loaned out to a club who is currently 17th in the Championship.

Or, surely a club fighting relegation from the championship wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't any good? Why not just give the lad a chance, you obviously have never seen him play properly?

I have seen enough to form enough of an opinion that he will not make it into our first team squad. I am not saying he will end up playing in the Vanarama Conference but not at the level where want to be.

Fair enough, statistically you are probably right, but in my book any loan to the championship is worthwhile, especially at his age. Very few 19 year olds will get premier league loans, and even if they did how much will they play?

Below championship and I agree the gulf in quality is likely to be too much for them to make it with us (Cole and Hiwula). I'm looking forward to seeing Fofana play.
 
spinzer said:
Neville Kneville said:
Ray78 said:
A good move and a good test but If he was that talented he wouldn't of been loaned out to a club who is currently 17th in the Championship.

If he wasn't talented, I wouldn't think he was talented.

I do, because he is.
No Neville, you are not the messiah..

I don't need to be the fucking Messiah to see talent in a player.

I don't know if Fofana will make it with the first team, but anybody who can look at some of the stuff he's done, even in his last game, & not apreciate it as talent, is a fucking idiot.
 
mansour's tow ropes said:
Ray78 said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
Or, surely a club fighting relegation from the championship wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't any good? Why not just give the lad a chance, you obviously have never seen him play properly?

I have seen enough to form enough of an opinion that he will not make it into our first team squad. I am not saying he will end up playing in the Vanarama Conference but not at the level where want to be.

Fair enough, statistically you are probably right, but in my book any loan to the championship is worthwhile, especially at his age. Very few 19 year olds will get premier league loans, and even if they did how much will they play?

Below championship and I agree the gulf in quality is likely to be too much for them to make it with us (Cole and Hiwula). I'm looking forward to seeing Fofana play.

A season long loan is the best scenario for a player at that age and at that level is the ideal situation in my point of view. It gives the player a stable platform, providing the player has been loaned out to the right club and he has the right manager/coach guiding him. It gives the parent club more time to assess on how well he is developing at the club and whether he has the right quality to and has shown the right attitude at that club to break into the first team when he has finished his loan spell.
 
Ray78 said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
Ray78 said:
I have seen enough to form enough of an opinion that he will not make it into our first team squad. I am not saying he will end up playing in the Vanarama Conference but not at the level where want to be.

Fair enough, statistically you are probably right, but in my book any loan to the championship is worthwhile, especially at his age. Very few 19 year olds will get premier league loans, and even if they did how much will they play?

Below championship and I agree the gulf in quality is likely to be too much for them to make it with us (Cole and Hiwula). I'm looking forward to seeing Fofana play.

A season long loan is the best scenario for a player at that age and at that level is the ideal situation in my point of view. It gives the player a stable platform, providing the player has been loaned out to the right club and he has the right manager/coach guiding him. It gives the parent club more time to assess on how well he is developing at the club and whether he has the quality to break into the first team when he has finished his loan spell.

Depends how well he does though. He's a big strong lad, so if he adapts quickly to Championship football, they could decide to stick him in the first team squad at City.

I don't know what they have in mind for him, but Fulham have some good prospects of their own so for them to be taking one of ours suggestes they really rate him. Could be the clubs fancy a swap for all I know.

Hope not, because the only players at City who can hit a ball anything like Fofana are Toure & Kolarov. If we could get him to come through, he would add something we are lacking.
 
waspish said:
Don't like youth players going to teams who are struggling it's drags them down! Better of going to a team with a winner mentality

I disagree fundamentally with your point, playing on loan in a less successful side will reveal more about a young player's character and attitude than strolling it in a winning team, Fofana will be under more pressure to perform at Fulham having come from a top-flight club - how he responds to the challenge will help Vieira, Marwood and Txiki decide whether he is worth persevering with as a potential first-teamer.
 
waspish said:
Don't like youth players going to teams who are struggling it's drags them down! Better of going to a team with a winner mentality
Problem with going to a high-flying team is they're high-flying because their players are all performing well therefore there wouldn't be space for him in the team. Great opportunity for the kid as long as he gets game time...
 
Jacob Smith said:
waspish said:
Don't like youth players going to teams who are struggling it's drags them down! Better of going to a team with a winner mentality
Problem with going to a high-flying team is they're high-flying because their players are all performing well therefore there wouldn't be space for him in the team. Great opportunity for the kid as long as he gets game time...

If the player is at that high standard then he will get valuable game time providing he has the right attitude.
 
Ray78 said:
Jacob Smith said:
waspish said:
Don't like youth players going to teams who are struggling it's drags them down! Better of going to a team with a winner mentality
Problem with going to a high-flying team is they're high-flying because their players are all performing well therefore there wouldn't be space for him in the team. Great opportunity for the kid as long as he gets game time...

If the player is at that high standard then he will get valuable game time providing he has the right attitude.
You mean like when Beckham went on loan to second division (third in old money) Preston.
 

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