Sergio's Offside, factually definitive or interpretive ?

A further point on var, when Sergio had his penalty saved in the first leg, the keeper was off his line, it was shown on BT so the penalty should have been retaken.
Vertonghen was also a yard or two inside the box, so if we’re being picky (which is the whole idea of VAR), then it should’ve been retaken.

All in the past though. Let’s concentrate on winning the league & FA Cup to complete the treble.
 
If the linesman flagged for a goal and the referee concurred, then why was VAR employed? Who made the call?
To me, even with the VAR image, it was difficult to tell whether or not Sergio was offside, and it most certainly wasn't a clear
and obvious error.
It appears that VAR is likely to cause as much controversy as has always been the case.
 
A further point on var, when Sergio had his penalty saved in the first leg, the keeper was off his line, it was shown on BT so the penalty should have been retaken.
Var doesn't seem to check on penalties taken which does seem a little strange seeing as the one at Spurs which if I'm honest I never thought was a penalty in the world of man, but once saved why was the goalkeeper position not checked along with the man who cleared the rebound just to ensure the laws of the game were adhered to as on Wednesday.PS Sergio was offside sadly.
 
Var doesn't seem to check on penalties taken which does seem a little strange seeing as the one at Spurs which if I'm honest I never thought was a penalty in the world of man, but once saved why was the goalkeeper position not checked along with the man who cleared the rebound just to ensure the laws of the game were adhered to as on Wednesday.PS Sergio was offside sadly.

Sergio may quite possibly have been offside, but on what do you base that ? as they continue to refuse to show the official freeze frame with their pretty coloured lines on them, on which they "presumably" based the VAR call.You would have thought 2 days would have been long enough to get hold of one , (from somewhere !)


They always do show them, don't they ? to PROVE they got the decision right ?
 
Sergio may quite possibly have been offside, but on what do you base that ? as they continue to refuse to show the official freeze frame with their pretty coloured lines on them, on which they "presumably" based the VAR call.You would have thought 2 days would have been long enough to get hold of one , (from somewhere !)


They always do show them, don't they ? to PROVE they got the decision right ?
I certainly couldn't tell from 109 but in pub after watching replay he certainly looked offside when ball struck Silva's foot.
 
I certainly couldn't tell from 109 but in pub after watching replay he certainly looked offside when ball struck Silva's foot.
i agree with what they showed, but the only image i've seen was fractionally before it reached Bernardo's left leg, and it hit his right leg, and Sergio was moving back towards becoming onside. If it was offside (quite possibly) why not show it like they normally do
 
Sergio may quite possibly have been offside, but on what do you base that ? as they continue to refuse to show the official freeze frame with their pretty coloured lines on them, on which they "presumably" based the VAR call.You would have thought 2 days would have been long enough to get hold of one , (from somewhere !)


They always do show them, don't they ? to PROVE they got the decision right ?

Did they ever show the freeze frame with the lines of the goal in the first leg? The one posted without the lines earlier in this thread makes it look as if SonSon is just off.
Hopefully VAR will improve - it's not got off to a great start in our games.
 
I think this although very very close(so a harsh call to take) is offside.



I know this freeze frame is after the contact with Bernardos foot but isn't Aguero moving in from an offside position to get onside? Meaning further back from that he's more offside? This was easier to take, if both calls had been handled the same... mm offside is offside, advantage gained with the arm deliberate or not is handball.
 
I think this although very very close(so a harsh call to take) is offside.



I know this freeze frame is after the contact with Bernardos foot but isn't Aguero moving in from an offside position to get onside? Meaning further back from that he's more offside? This was easier to take, if both calls had been handled the same... mm offside is offside, advantage gained with the arm deliberate or not is handball.

Difficult to tell on that, why is the segment where Sergio is standing, the only one, that clearly narrows towards the far side of the pitch,(the line TV has added,is clearly not parallel). Secondly, point still stands, where is the official VAR freeze frame, that they give to broadcasters, with pretty coloured lines, to show everybody what a good job VAR did?

The cynic in me, did consider the possibility that the Spurs defender loosely level with Sergio, does appear as though his left arm is behind him, and could well be playing Sergio onside ? as contrary to popular belief the rule relating to offside only considering parts of the body you can score with, should obviously now include arms!

Furthermore if that level (a few inches) was applied to Liverpool's goals this season, their match on Sunday would be a 6 point relegation decider with Cardiff!
 
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