Serial Killer at large in Manchester?

[SWP's back]

I'm guessing he means that the potential killers would be the subject of the initiation. Having a murder to your name is requisite for membership in some gang cultures.

It did remind a bit of this classic:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8[/youtube]

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

All deaths are the responsibility of HM Coroner who is alerted to each of them. Every sudden or unexpected death is subject to an inquest, and are investigated on behalf of the coroner by the police. Therefire, each and every dead person from deaths in water will have been scrutinised and heard by HM Coroner for the region.
Part of the coroners job is to provide narrative verdicts or recommendations on issues and aspects which have been highlighted as significant in the circumstances and the investigation and the findings. For instance, the TA soldiers who recently died on SAS selection in the brecon beacons in the heatwave. There will no doubt be recommendations or rulings from that, probably dont beast people in blazing heat.
As such, it would be the Coroner who would recommend or declare the need for safety measures or initiatives around the waterways and canals. This has not happened, and so I would confidently say that this is due to the fundamental basic human knowledge that water drowns you. Especially if pissed and its dark and other factors. Since being about 2yrs old I have known that falling from a height will hurt me, or hot things will burn me. In other words the bleeding obvious.

 

[m7mcfc]

That is a fact Sam,just numbers of deaths-Not evidence of murder. You believe they are murders.For them to be murders there will be some physical evidence of Foul Play which will be identified normally by a post mortem carried out by the home office pathologist. Trauma to the body etc etc. As I said pal,in my opinion it would have to be a cover up of all cover ups involving every person involved in any investigation.

I've never said foul play is involved but the numbers are piling up very high and are at over 10% of deaths on the roads in Greater Manchester (50% of deaths in Manchester when taken alone) over a similar period (which is stunning given the millions of road users placed against the thousands of waterway users). I am shocked at how dangerous the waterways appear to be and am wondering why no media campaigns are being sought to highlight the dangers.

Well I don't bother with Canal street all the rest of you go at your peril.

 

[johnmc]

That is a fact Sam,just numbers of deaths-Not evidence of murder. You believe they are murders.For them to be murders there will be some physical evidence of Foul Play which will be identified normally by a post mortem carried out by the home office pathologist. Trauma to the body etc etc. As I said pal,in my opinion it would have to be a cover up of all cover ups involving every person involved in any investigation.

I've never said foul play is involved but the numbers are piling up very high and are at over 10% of deaths on the roads in Greater Manchester (50% of deaths in Manchester when taken alone) over a similar period (which is stunning given the millions of road users placed against the thousands of waterway users). I am shocked at how dangerous the waterways appear to be and am wondering why no media campaigns are being sought to highlight the dangers.

Well I don't bother with Canal street all the rest of you go at your peril.

The only canal in manchester is the one that runs alongside the gay village. Fact.

 

[East Level 2]

The only canal in manchester is the one that runs alongside the gay village. Fact.

Manchester has a capital M. Fact.
The canal on Canal Street is either the Rochdale Canal or the Bridgewater. It changes its name somewhere in the city centre.
However the Ashton canal comes in almost as far as Piccadilly Station. If you walk back into town along Store Street you'll walk under it. I believe this is in what we call Manchester. Fact.

 

[allan harper]

I'm not married.

You seem to be getting angry at what my friend said,are you getting annoyed that you're not getting the credit for your killings?

Really??

Angry? Who is your friend and what did he say that am I getting mad about cherub?

And yes, you are right, Im annoyed at not getting credit. Well done you

Yes really.

Some cunts on a football forum (not just you so don't think you're special)) think they're Sherlock Holmes sisters, best mate, think there's a canal killer? Oh how I laugh.

15 deaths in two years and the police are doing fuck all about it!

As I say, as you sound Paranoid, my mate lives by the canal and hears pissed up people falling into it all the time. But not you.

 

[johnny on the spot]

I'm not married.

You seem to be getting angry at what my friend said,are you getting annoyed that you're not getting the credit for your killings?

Really??

Angry? Who is your friend and what did he say that am I getting mad about cherub?

And yes, you are right, Im annoyed at not getting credit. Well done you

Yes really.

Some cunts on a football forum (not just you so don't think you're special)) think they're Sherlock Holmes sisters, best mate, think there's a canal killer? Oh how I laugh.

15 deaths in two years and the police are doing fuck all about it!

As I say, as you sound Paranoid, my mate lives by the canal and hears pissed up people falling into it all the time. But not you.

'I bet you've warned them. But they never listen'.

 

[ancoats]

this was kept quiet by the police

Jailed, phone robbery gang who drowned man in Manchester canal
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/jailed-phone-robbery-gang-who-6142754" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ho-6142754</a>


Manchester Crown Court heard that the gang looked for victims in a ‘dark and dangerous’ area by the Rochdale canal where gay men look for sex.

An evil gang of robbers who pushed a man into a canal and left him to die during a violent city centre mugging spree have been jailed.

Manchester Crown Court heard that the gang looked for victims in a ‘dark and dangerous’ area by the Rochdale canal where gay men look for sex.

Simon Brass, 40, from Salford, drowned after being pushed off the towpath and into the Water beneath Aytoun Street, in the early hours of June 5.

The court heard it was likely he knew of the threat of robbery in the dark, secluded area and so hid his phone in his sock, where it was found when his body was discovered four days later.

The failure to find the phone ‘frustrated’ Paul Creedy, Kieron Murray, Leah Garner, Jack Smith, and a 15-year-old boy who can’t be identified for legal reasons.

Mr Brass was heard saying ‘I can’t swim, I can’t swim’, after the gang took their revenge.

In a disturbing twist, the court heard that Mr Brass was the second man who the robbers had pushed into the canal that night, although the earlier victim managed to get of the water, despite Creedy stamping on his fingers as he tried to drag his way out. An hour-and-a-half before killing Mr Brass, Creedy and Murray had also attempted to rob another man at the Piccadilly underpass who managed to escape when three men came to his aid.

Murray and Creedy were then joined by the rest of the gang, and they all tried to rob yet another man, kicking him unconscious and leaving him needing hospital treatment for cuts and swelling.

The gang continued to roam between Dale Street, Piccadilly bus station and Canal Street. CCTV captured Mr Brass ‘walking to his death’ under the Aytoun Street bridge at just before 2.50am, Mark Kellett, prosecuting, told the court.

Two minutes later the gang were seen walking ‘nonchalantly’ away only to rob another man of an iPhone 4 at the underpass. They then tried to sell the phone in local takeaways before being arrested.

Creedy, 20 of Heathcote Road, Gorton , who played ‘a major role’ in the spree, has been jailed for 10 years with a licence period extended by three years on his release, after admitting manslaughter and conspiracy to commit robbery. Creedy, who smirked throughout the hearing, was on bail for drugs offences at the time of killing.

Dad-of-two Murray, 22, of Eastern Bypass, Openshaw , who stole from a cabbie at knifepoint three days after the killing, admitted manslaughter and conspiracy to commit robbery and has been jailed for 10 years with an extended licence period of three years.

Smith, 19, of Lawnhurst Avenue, Wythenshawe , who also has a previous conviction for robbery, boasted to a pal that he didn’t help Mr Brass because ‘I wasn’t getting wet’, adding, ‘the guy got murdered for an iPhone...it wasn’t even an iPhone 4’. He was branded ‘callous in the ‘extreme’ by Judge Clement Goldstone QC as he was jailed for nine years after admitting manslaughter and attempted robbery.

Garner, 21, of Stockport Road, Levenshulme , attempted to rob another victim two weeks after Mr Brass’s death. She was branded a ‘bully and a coward’ as she was locked up for 10 years after admitting manslaughter and attempted robbery.

The 15-year-old boy, on bail for arson and drugs offences at the time of the killing, was described as ‘easily led’. He admitted robbery, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and manslaughter, and was locked up for five years and eight months.

 

[FuZzY]

this was kept quiet by the police

Jailed, phone robbery gang who drowned man in Manchester canal
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/jailed-phone-robbery-gang-who-6142754" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ho-6142754</a>


Manchester Crown Court heard that the gang looked for victims in a ‘dark and dangerous’ area by the Rochdale canal where gay men look for sex.

An evil gang of robbers who pushed a man into a canal and left him to die during a violent city centre mugging spree have been jailed.

Manchester Crown Court heard that the gang looked for victims in a ‘dark and dangerous’ area by the Rochdale canal where gay men look for sex.

Simon Brass, 40, from Salford, drowned after being pushed off the towpath and into the Water beneath Aytoun Street, in the early hours of June 5.

The court heard it was likely he knew of the threat of robbery in the dark, secluded area and so hid his phone in his sock, where it was found when his body was discovered four days later.

The failure to find the phone ‘frustrated’ Paul Creedy, Kieron Murray, Leah Garner, Jack Smith, and a 15-year-old boy who can’t be identified for legal reasons.

Mr Brass was heard saying ‘I can’t swim, I can’t swim’, after the gang took their revenge.

In a disturbing twist, the court heard that Mr Brass was the second man who the robbers had pushed into the canal that night, although the earlier victim managed to get of the water, despite Creedy stamping on his fingers as he tried to drag his way out. An hour-and-a-half before killing Mr Brass, Creedy and Murray had also attempted to rob another man at the Piccadilly underpass who managed to escape when three men came to his aid.

Murray and Creedy were then joined by the rest of the gang, and they all tried to rob yet another man, kicking him unconscious and leaving him needing hospital treatment for cuts and swelling.

The gang continued to roam between Dale Street, Piccadilly bus station and Canal Street. CCTV captured Mr Brass ‘walking to his death’ under the Aytoun Street bridge at just before 2.50am, Mark Kellett, prosecuting, told the court.

Two minutes later the gang were seen walking ‘nonchalantly’ away only to rob another man of an iPhone 4 at the underpass. They then tried to sell the phone in local takeaways before being arrested.

Creedy, 20 of Heathcote Road, Gorton , who played ‘a major role’ in the spree, has been jailed for 10 years with a licence period extended by three years on his release, after admitting manslaughter and conspiracy to commit robbery. Creedy, who smirked throughout the hearing, was on bail for drugs offences at the time of killing.

Dad-of-two Murray, 22, of Eastern Bypass, Openshaw , who stole from a cabbie at knifepoint three days after the killing, admitted manslaughter and conspiracy to commit robbery and has been jailed for 10 years with an extended licence period of three years.

Smith, 19, of Lawnhurst Avenue, Wythenshawe , who also has a previous conviction for robbery, boasted to a pal that he didn’t help Mr Brass because ‘I wasn’t getting wet’, adding, ‘the guy got murdered for an iPhone...it wasn’t even an iPhone 4’. He was branded ‘callous in the ‘extreme’ by Judge Clement Goldstone QC as he was jailed for nine years after admitting manslaughter and attempted robbery.

Garner, 21, of Stockport Road, Levenshulme , attempted to rob another victim two weeks after Mr Brass’s death. She was branded a ‘bully and a coward’ as she was locked up for 10 years after admitting manslaughter and attempted robbery.

The 15-year-old boy, on bail for arson and drugs offences at the time of the killing, was described as ‘easily led’. He admitted robbery, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and manslaughter, and was locked up for five years and eight months.

10 years and 9 years!!!
What a fooking joke!
They should've been sent down for murder not manslaughter.
Makes you wonder how many more they've pushed in the canal that are mentioned in this thread.
Title should be changed to Serial Killers at large in Manchester.

So St Helens Blue (Exiled) what do you say now?

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

We all need to be careful near canals as these won't be the only nutjobs prepared to kill for a mobile phone.