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So, we all know Pep is a genius, but he is also a pedant for detail...

How, can we be so bad at set pieces? I understand we do take the occasional decent free kicks but our corners and penalties are awful in general, even our throw ins seem to be wild and often result in us losing the ball.

Last night was just another game where we have not been able to make corners count, we are racking up a ridiculous amount of them with teams camped in their box so surely to God we should be utilising them more? I just can't see how we have a Manager who obsessed over the smallest detail yet we still cannot do something so fundamental to the game properly.

Obviously the figures below are for this season but looking back at last year a record 151 goals stemmed from corners, accounting for 13.9 per cent of all goals scored in the Premier League. Seems mad we aren't taking advantage where other teams clearly are doing.
 

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SiMCFC said:
So, we all know Pep is a genius, but he is also a pedant for detail...

How, can we be so bad at set pieces? I understand we do take the occasional decent free kicks but our corners and penalties are awful in general, even our throw ins seem to be wild and often result in us losing the ball.

Last night was just another game where we have not been able to make corners count, we are racking up a ridiculous amount of them with teams camped in their box so surely to God we should be utilising them more? I just can't see how we have a Manager who obsessed over the smallest detail yet we still cannot do something so fundamental to the game properly.
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Maybe you should apply for his job. Think you could do it better ?
 
SiMCFC said:
So, we all know Pep is a genius, but he is also a pedant for detail...

How, can we be so bad at set pieces? I understand we do take the occasional decent free kicks but our corners and penalties are awful in general, even our throw ins seem to be wild and often result in us losing the ball.

Last night was just another game where we have not been able to make corners count, we are racking up a ridiculous amount of them with teams camped in their box so surely to God we should be utilising them more? I just can't see how we have a Manager who obsessed over the smallest detail yet we still cannot do something so fundamental to the game properly.
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On penalties: Most players struggle with the responsibility and many, in shoot outs, place it so safely on target that if the goalkeeper goes the right way then he easily saves (Kovacic and Modric penalties last night). I'd take the responsibility out of their hands and the manager tells them which side, how hard, up down etc. Make it a task for the player rather than a decision. Penalty contests are now very much a part of football.
 
Crossing all over was poor last night can’t think the last time Kev put a ball from open play straight to the keeper but it happened a lot.

For me there’s a lack of following the ball in on the chance it may rebound etc.

So long as the ball beats the first man on a corner I don’t mind. Why on 90 mins we get a free kick 40 yards out and don’t lump it into the box is what baffled me (may of been in ET can’t fully remember)
 
Our corner taking has been abysmal for what seems like years. Always seems to be forgotten after the game because there's other things to talk about but theres literally no point even watching us take a corner because it's obvious it'll be shit
 
CTID1988 said:
Our corner taking has been abysmal for what seems like years. Always seems to be forgotten after the game because there's other things to talk about but theres literally no point even watching us take a corner because it's obvious it'll be shit
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We said the same last night, it just seems surreal for such a well drilled side that we get so many corners yet look so impotent from them, we have some big lads in the side but don't look like we have a plan apart from a floated cross or occasionally Kev tries to beat the keeper.
 
SiMCFC said:
Absolutely not, but the beauty of a forum is you can ask questions with like minded people, you balloon.
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Quite right but not everyone is like minded with you and are perfectly entitled to their views. Using derogatory name calling in a response is also another area where I disagree with your views.
 
There was clearly a plan last night to put it on the goalkeper. My only question is, why did that plan then change in the 89th minute?
 
The amount of corners we have a shocked we don't have 4/5 different types of corners! Maybe foden Kdb or anyone who can strike the ball well should line up our side the pen area and then each corner we at least have a shot on goal
 
Cravenvirgin said:
Quite right but not everyone is like minded with you and are perfectly entitled to their views. Using derogatory name calling in a response is also another area where I disagree with your views.
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Ok, so the concept of a forum is to post ones views which I did, you tried to be a smart arse insinuating I know better than Pep, how about if you don't agree with my views you just don't bother posting on the thread? Ignored.
 
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Corners , crosses , penalties are of a staggering poor quality for a team of our calibre . That reflects very badly on the training ground work and tactical preparation . Countless times we hit the first man from a good position or just balloon it past . Palmer was decent at crossing but let’s not go there , Firing balls at the keeper with no result from every corner is naive. Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome is the definition of stupidity.
 
Did we have a run of 80 corners without a goal under Pellegrini or have I dreamt it
 
SiMCFC said:
So, we all know Pep is a genius, but he is also a pedant for detail...

How, can we be so bad at set pieces? I understand we do take the occasional decent free kicks but our corners and penalties are awful in general, even our throw ins seem to be wild and often result in us losing the ball.

Last night was just another game where we have not been able to make corners count, we are racking up a ridiculous amount of them with teams camped in their box so surely to God we should be utilising them more? I just can't see how we have a Manager who obsessed over the smallest detail yet we still cannot do something so fundamental to the game properly.
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18 corners last night the average success rate is 3% therefore expected number of goals 0.54
 
SiMCFC said:
So, we all know Pep is a genius, but he is also a pedant for detail...

How, can we be so bad at set pieces? I understand we do take the occasional decent free kicks but our corners and penalties are awful in general, even our throw ins seem to be wild and often result in us losing the ball.

Last night was just another game where we have not been able to make corners count, we are racking up a ridiculous amount of them with teams camped in their box so surely to God we should be utilising them more? I just can't see how we have a Manager who obsessed over the smallest detail yet we still cannot do something so fundamental to the game properly.

Obviously the figures below are for this season but looking back at last year a record 151 goals stemmed from corners, accounting for 13.9 per cent of all goals scored in the Premier League. Seems mad we aren't taking advantage where other teams clearly are doing.
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Don't think we'll get an answer to why Pep doesn't really exploit set pieces.
 
We were top scorers from set pieces 2 or 3 seasons ago if I remember rightly, but the set piece coach moved on after that season.
 
Wanted to resurrect this - some, if not all, our seat pieces today were terrible. Do we have a set piece coach? If we do we must be paying him buttons I'd hope as he's clearly awful
 
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