Shamima Begum

[Kinkybyname]

Would you?

 

[Crooked_rain]

She wasn't a child when she showed zero remorse in her first interviews. We are a soft touch society but for terrorism...zero tolerance should be the way, otherwise we are simply pissing on the memory of the innocent people who have died to this stuff.

Can we be a strong country in at least one area please.

I agree

She was already 20 when she essentially said the Manchester bombings were justified, and she also has no regrets that she went to join a terrorist organisation so that’s enough for me to feel she shouldn’t be coming back. Her words alone show she is radicalised.

We have been letting people in and out of the country that are known to be associated with terrorist groups, just like the **** who bombed the kids at Manchester Arena. It should never happen. Maybe some get through the net but in this case that’s not happening.

Many people feel she isn’t a threat to society if she comes back, but how do you know? Nobody knows. She might not be, but why take the risk on someone who seemingly has no remorse for terrorism and seemingly doesn’t feel there’s much wrong with the organisation she is/was part of.

 

[Crooked_rain]

How come we aren't removing the citizenship of all the National action mob or Lee Rigbys killers I'm sure we can palm them off on their ancestral homes?

Basically picked on an easy target haven't they to look like they are tough on crime and immigration.

Because they committed crimes here on the streets of the UK, so they got arrested here and put on trial here

This one joined a terrorist origination on another continent.

Not comparable

 

[Crooked_rain]

I very much doubt it, as my understanding is that she is maintaining she isn't a BGD national. Although entitled to it, she has never claimed it through her parents. To claim it and suggest she go there would be to give an easy win to UK Gov.
I suspect that she will eventually be allowed to return at which point she will be prosecuted. Once she is handed a small sentence and released she will be handed anonymity as per Maxine Carr.

What would she be put on trial for?

Has she technically committed any crime within the UK that she could go on trial for? I don’t know the answer, I’m curious. On the surface, it doesn’t really seem so. all she did here was leave the country.

If not, then I guess that’s part of the problem, because if they accept her back, they might not actually have any legal grounds to put her in trial for anything, which then creates a bigger problem and public backlash because then you’re letting her back with absolutely no consequences by rights.

I don’t know if that’s correct or not, but if it was, I guess that would explain why removing her citizenship seems like the easiest way basically not to deal with it.

 

[laserblue]

Just who is paying the not inconsiderable cost of having long term lawyers on her case?

 

[BobKowalski]

I agree

She was already 20 when she essentially said the Manchester bombings were justified, and she also has no regrets that she went to join a terrorist organisation so that’s enough for me to feel she shouldn’t be coming back. Her words alone show she is radicalised.

We have been letting people in and out of the country that are known to be associated with terrorist groups, just like the **** who bombed the kids at Manchester Arena. It should never happen. Maybe some get through the net but in this case that’s not happening.

Many people feel she isn’t a threat to society if she comes back, but how do you know? Nobody knows. She might not be, but why take the risk on someone who seemingly has no remorse for terrorism and seemingly doesn’t feel there’s much wrong with the organisation she is/was part of.

I love the use of ‘essentially’ and ‘seemingly’ to justify the arbitrary stripping of citizenship.

 

[Scottyboi]

Because they committed crimes here on the streets of the UK, so they got arrested here and put on trial here

This one joined a terrorist origination on another continent.

Not comparable

Read what I was replying to, they said she gave up any rights when she joined a terrorist organization so my reply was to that.

 

[BobKowalski]

Just who is paying the not inconsiderable cost of having long term lawyers on her case?

Hopefully, the UK taxpayer.

I shall laugh my tits off if that is the case.

 

[Crooked_rain]

I love the use of ‘essentially’ and ‘seemingly’ to justify the arbitrary stripping of citizenship.

Well, we can only take her at her word for it, but not everyone’s word is true. That’s why I said seemingly.

But those words are from her. That’s enough for me to think she shouldn’t be walking our streets. She’s not worth the risk.

 

[BobKowalski]

Well, we can only take her at her word for it, but not everyone’s word is true. That’s why I said seemingly.

But those words are from her. That’s enough for me to think she shouldn’t be walking our streets. She’s not worth the risk.

I think we need a higher standard of evidence before we start stripping people of citizenship. If the State can strip your or my citizenship on the flimsiest of pretexts then we are all fucked. And that is way more dangerous than some deluded tart who did a runner when she was 15.