And is still improving at a fast rate, meaning he will be better than Given, meaning Mancini is justified in making him #1.lancs blue said:zeven said:Hart have served city great whenever he has played, why hugues signed Given in the first place i dont know!
No, that's not right. Before Hart went on loan to Brum he was too raw to be in a team that was aiming for 4th spot, Hughes was right to bring another keeper in, one of the few things he did get right. Hart has clearly improved significantly while at Brum and is now roughly on a par with Given.
what im trying to say is, Hart did not deserv to lose his spot, in the first place.IrishMacca said:10.Goater_Legend said:I personally have no doubts that Hart will go on to be the best keeper in the Prem for many years to come and win many titles with us.
We're looking at a good 15 years service out of this guy.
Foster had all the potential in the world, he's was going to be the next big thing, I'm sure those United fans thought they'd be looking at a good 15 years great service out of him.
Yet like so many young English keepers, there was a false dawn, like there is for oh so many keepers and players in general, and they faded off into irrelevance and became nothing but average. Not saying it'll happen to Hart, but 1 good enough season at a mid table club, and one game for City isn't enough to suggest that he'll be the best keeper for years to come. It's something I'd rather not gamble a season on.
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zeven said:Hart have served city great whenever he has played, why hugues signed Given in the first place i dont know!
I know like, why did he bother, I mean it's not like Given did anything for the club anyway. It's not like Hart had an endless list of weaknesses before Given came..but nope, that too has disapeared, along with the memory of Given's great performances for us. It's just a mystery.
Hart did, and as nearly every keeper his age, should have had the patience to sit on the bench and learn. Given didn't. And has been pushed to the side because of his age, partially because of his nationality, but nothing else. Can't imagine what it feels like to be treated like that.zeven said:what im trying to say is, Hart did not deserv to lose his spot, in the first place.IrishMacca said:Foster had all the potential in the world, he's was going to be the next big thing, I'm sure those United fans thought they'd be looking at a good 15 years great service out of him.
Yet like so many young English keepers, there was a false dawn, like there is for oh so many keepers and players in general, and they faded off into irrelevance and became nothing but average. Not saying it'll happen to Hart, but 1 good enough season at a mid table club, and one game for City isn't enough to suggest that he'll be the best keeper for years to come. It's something I'd rather not gamble a season on.
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I know like, why did he bother, I mean it's not like Given did anything for the club anyway. It's not like Hart had an endless list of weaknesses before Given came..but nope, that too has disapeared, along with the memory of Given's great performances for us. It's just a mystery.
I love Given, hes an awesome keeper.
It's absolutely fuck all to do with his nationality, why would an Italian manager in Robeto Mancini give a fuck about the Irish/English goalkeeping situations?, remember he was the one who made the decision.IrishMacca said:Hart did, and as nearly every keeper his age, should have had the patience to sit on the bench and learn. Given didn't. And has been pushed to the side because of his age, partially because of his nationality, but nothing else. Can't imagine what it feels like to be treated like that.zeven said:what im trying to say is, Hart did not deserv to lose his spot, in the first place.
I love Given, hes an awesome keeper.
IrishMacca said:Who cares about the Irish lad when England's future keeper needs games.
Nail on head.stony said:IrishMacca said:Who cares about the Irish lad when England's future keeper needs games.
That's basically your problem. It's not about nationality it's about what's best for City. Joe Hart can be our keeper for the next 10 or 15 years, Shay only has a few years left. Ask Arsenal how easy it is to get a good keeper, ask Fergie too. The rags spent years look for a replacement for Schmeichel.
You need to work out who you support mate, Ireland or City.
IrishMacca said:Hart did, and as nearly every keeper his age, should have had the patience to sit on the bench and learn. Given didn't. And has been pushed to the side because of his age, partially because of his nationality, but nothing else. Can't imagine what it feels like to be treated like that.zeven said:what im trying to say is, Hart did not deserv to lose his spot, in the first place.
I love Given, hes an awesome keeper.