Ship of fools

i find this thread sadly ironic.

the absolute bullshit that jonny has come out with has managed to bait every atheist within a 10 mile radius.

giving creedence to the drivel this 'man' has come out with only encourages him, and to try and have a mature reasoned discussion with someone whose mind closed a good few years ago just plays into his hands.

rule 1 on the god botherers handbook is court discussion and controversy within the nontheists/atheist camp and maybe you will get a convert. no discussion or debate means no converts, and the most easily converted are the stupidest.

i KNOW that this man is wrong spiritualy, ethically, morally and logically. in his defence tho, i know its not his fault - its what he has been taught by other cult members.

maybe it is time to put him and his mates in a ship of fools and sail him off. bye, bye jonny.
 
myleftfoot said:
i find this thread sadly ironic.

the absolute bullshit that jonny has come out with has managed to bait every atheist within a 10 mile radius.

giving creedence to the drivel this 'man' has come out with only encourages him, and to try and have a mature reasoned discussion with someone whose mind closed a good few years ago just plays into his hands.

rule 1 on the god botherers handbook is court discussion and controversy within the nontheists/atheist camp and maybe you will get a convert. no discussion or debate means no converts, and the most easily converted are the stupidest.

i KNOW that this man is wrong spiritualy, ethically, morally and logically. in his defence tho, i know its not his fault - its what he has been taught by other cult members.

maybe it is time to put him and his mates in a ship of fools and sail him off. bye, bye jonny.


LOL, but agree with you. Cult member - ha ha
However, Mr Crossan wasn't the only contributor, there have been one or two half intellegable comments from other believers.
Fortunately, I hadn't come across Mr Crossan before but I soon realised there would be no chance of a reasoned debate with him. He seems the type of person (ie a knob) who just drops his little 'grenade' and sits back and sniggers as it kicks off, and just as it dies down, he does it all again.

I have enjoyed reading other peoples' views though (and insulting Mr Crossan)
 
Oolon Colluphid said:
myleftfoot said:
i find this thread sadly ironic.

the absolute bullshit that jonny has come out with has managed to bait every atheist within a 10 mile radius.

giving creedence to the drivel this 'man' has come out with only encourages him, and to try and have a mature reasoned discussion with someone whose mind closed a good few years ago just plays into his hands.

rule 1 on the god botherers handbook is court discussion and controversy within the nontheists/atheist camp and maybe you will get a convert. no discussion or debate means no converts, and the most easily converted are the stupidest.

i KNOW that this man is wrong spiritualy, ethically, morally and logically. in his defence tho, i know its not his fault - its what he has been taught by other cult members.

maybe it is time to put him and his mates in a ship of fools and sail him off. bye, bye jonny.


LOL, but agree with you. Cult member - ha ha
However, Mr Crossan wasn't the only contributor, there have been one or two half intellegable comments from other believers.
Fortunately, I hadn't come across Mr Crossan before but I soon realised there would be no chance of a reasoned debate with him. He seems the type of person (ie a knob) who just drops his little 'grenade' and sits back and sniggers as it kicks off, and just as it dies down, he does it all again.

I have enjoyed reading other peoples' views though (and insulting Mr Crossan)

We've got a chance with you two then eh?
 
johnny crossan said:
Oolon Colluphid said:
myleftfoot said:
i find this thread sadly ironic.

the absolute bullshit that jonny has come out with has managed to bait every atheist within a 10 mile radius.

giving creedence to the drivel this 'man' has come out with only encourages him, and to try and have a mature reasoned discussion with someone whose mind closed a good few years ago just plays into his hands.

rule 1 on the god botherers handbook is court discussion and controversy within the nontheists/atheist camp and maybe you will get a convert. no discussion or debate means no converts, and the most easily converted are the stupidest.

i KNOW that this man is wrong spiritualy, ethically, morally and logically. in his defence tho, i know its not his fault - its what he has been taught by other cult members.

maybe it is time to put him and his mates in a ship of fools and sail him off. bye, bye jonny.


LOL, but agree with you. Cult member - ha ha
However, Mr Crossan wasn't the only contributor, there have been one or two half intellegable comments from other believers.
Fortunately, I hadn't come across Mr Crossan before but I soon realised there would be no chance of a reasoned debate with him. He seems the type of person (ie a knob) who just drops his little 'grenade' and sits back and sniggers as it kicks off, and just as it dies down, he does it all again.

I have enjoyed reading other peoples' views though (and insulting Mr Crossan)

We've got a chance with you two then eh?

that actually made me laugh.....now GO AWAY!!!
 
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johnny crossan said:
ElanJo said:
johnny crossan said:
ElanJo said:
That is your belief based on scripture.

I'm talking about the general view of a God. Forget all the religious doctrine from the thousands of Gods throughout mankind's history. What is so inherent in the idea of a God that he/she/it would have to be what our religions tell us he is today? (invisible, no evidence could ever be found because that would make him a poor God etc etc)

There is nothing.

For example, a God could quite easily be a kind of supernatural spirit being that lived amongst us that performed moral judgment and teaching in real-time and in person to help us all grow.

Like Jesus possibly? Look Elanjo, I need to log off now but I'll come back to this point if I may.

Did you die?

Just a little, each time I see Stanley's insightful efforts. Keep posting eh Stanley?

To be frank I think the exchanges with the virulent and thick are getting in the way of the interesting stuff on this thread.

Anyway forgive me Elanjo, I have been distracted from the important business of trying to save your immortal soul by transient transfer excitements.

By the way, I notice you haven't called me a moron for a while. Truly I'm grateful for your more measured recent contributions but I worry they may be tactical and merely a precursor to another crushing attack.

On the subject of why God is hidden, and there are some who say He isn't, I'm with St Matthew:

The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

You seem to have completely ignored what I wrote.

As for insults, I can't be expected to remember every conversation you and I have had but I do not believe I have ever just jumped on you, calling you a moron or a fool etc, without atleast giving my reasons. You, however, have attacked me and others, without a hint of an explanation, plenty of times. I welcome people calling me names , I'm not a baby, but on one condition - there's some explanation/reasoning behind them.
Overall I think I have been extremely measured with you. The only times I have lost my cool is when you refuse to answer questions, skirt issues and/or incessantly quote others. If you won't have an honest debate with someone who differs from you then really you shouldn't be making threads such as this one or "Elanjo's blue heaven" etc.
 

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