Ship of fools

johnny crossan said:
squirtyflower said:
It's definitely Crossan in need of help, psychiatric help.
And I neither want or need your help.

Please believe me Squirty, you really do need help, we all do.

Finally,on page 38,you drop the "vague quotes of others" school of rational debate and actually make a statement I can broadly agree with.
The fact that the "help" I need comes from the company,support,inspiration and love I receive,(and hopefully return to), my friends and family is sufficient for me to lead a happy,fulfilled and meaningful life.
I do not have any need to believe in anything greater than the reciprocal love of my fellow human beings.
Why you are unable to accept this and agree to differ is totally beyond my comprehension.
With every post you submit you are revealing yourself to be an inflexible fundamentalist,and alienating more and more people.
Like others,I certainly don't want anything whatsoever from you,other than that perhaps you think twice before blithely calling people "fools" for the crime of having a different opinion to you in future.
 
squirtyflower said:
johnny crossan said:
Please believe me Squirty, you really do need help, we all do.
You can't even understand English, I didn't say I didn't need help, I said I don't want or need your help.
And the reason I think you are a complete tosser is because you are always trying to twist and change what we write. First and foremost you are a liar.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you can substantiate a single lie from me anywhere in this thread or any others I will unreservedly apologise. Making the text bigger doesn't help to make a point BTW, the force of an argument comes from its form not its content.
 
stony said:
johnny crossan said:
Sorry Mr "What this thread needs is nuns with their tits out!" Stony. I misread your username before - I've corrected it now. Thank you for your pity, we all need some. The perfectability of man project is a long way from completion I'm afraid.


This thread definitely needs nuns with their tits out. What it doesn't need is patronising do gooders like yourself. You need to lighten up Johnny, have a spliff, get drunk, rent a hooker or something.

the holy trinity, beer, weed and fluff. preferably in that order
 
johnny crossan said:
Here is the crew of a vessel which boasts some of the most virulent & unreasoning atheists on Bluemoon. Anybody I've left out - please accept my apologies and sign yourself on board.

ElanJo (Captain)
Squirtyflower
Stony
black mamba
Blue4ever85
bun shop blue
Stanley
paphos-mcfc
i8therags
mancitygaz
nijinsky’s fetlocks
And the lies come from your assertion regarding the OP where you said all on board were unreasoning and virulent and I asked you for particular evidence regarding squirty. You then did you quoting of others and usual bollocks without providing the evidence of, and I have to repeat it for you as you seem to be incredibly dense, MY unreasoning and virulent behaviour. So you are still a LIAR!
 
johnny crossan said:
tonea2003 said:
johnny are you ever going to answer my question or not?

genuinely interested to what you think is proof/evidence of what us boys and girls on the ship of fools think isn't there

I thought I covered it in my reply to you and Matty some time ago. I personally believe that the existence of God cannot be proved or refuted empirically but there are some who do and one of the most persuasive is Alvin Plantinga. His argument follow Godel, Liebniz and ultimately Anselm.

so let me get this right you believe something that cannot be proved, has no concrete evidence for...why?
i find that oh so strange,
so glad i am a fool
 
squirtyflower said:
johnny crossan said:
Here is the crew of a vessel which boasts some of the most virulent & unreasoning atheists on Bluemoon. Anybody I've left out - please accept my apologies and sign yourself on board.

ElanJo (Captain)
Squirtyflower
Stony
black mamba
Blue4ever85
bun shop blue
Stanley
paphos-mcfc
i8therags
mancitygaz
nijinsky’s fetlocks
And the lies come from your assertion regarding the OP where you said all on board were unreasoning and virulent and I asked you for particular evidence regarding squirty. You then did you quoting of others and usual bollocks without providing the evidence of, and I have to repeat it for you as you seem to be incredibly dense, MY unreasoning and virulent behaviour. So you are still a LIAR!

Your unreasoning behaviour was endorsing Dawkins' atheology and the virulence is his mimetic term for your and my beliefs. Simple as that.
 
johnny crossan said:
squirtyflower said:
And the lies come from your assertion regarding the OP where you said all on board were unreasoning and virulent and I asked you for particular evidence regarding squirty. You then did you quoting of others and usual bollocks without providing the evidence of, and I have to repeat it for you as you seem to be incredibly dense, MY unreasoning and virulent behaviour. So you are still a LIAR!

Your unreasoning behaviour was endorsing Dawkins' atheology and the virulence is his mimetic term for your and my beliefs. Simple as that.


not very simple is it though. dictionary.com here I come.

big words are the devil
 
johnny crossan said:
squirtyflower said:
You can't even understand English, I didn't say I didn't need help, I said I don't want or need your help.
And the reason I think you are a complete tosser is because you are always trying to twist and change what we write. First and foremost you are a liar.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you can substantiate a single lie from me anywhere in this thread or any others I will unreservedly apologise. Making the text bigger doesn't help to make a point BTW, the force of an argument comes from its form not its content.

I was going to ignore you,as I feel debate is pointless,but that really is a classic.
"The force of an argument comes from its form,not its content".
This pearl of wisdom from someone who has singularly failed to answer any meaningful question regarding the existence of god in this whole debate.
Someone who answers in either cliched soundbite quotes,nonsensical algebraic formulae or condescending,patronising gibberish.
Someone who starts a divisive thread attacking people for no reason.
That,even by your level,is hypocrisy of epic proportions.
Carry on trying to flog your discredited biblical snake-oil Johnny - you are the best recruiting sergeant for atheism I have ever seen.
 

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