Shocking Guardian article on De Jong/Ben Arfa

[machiavellian]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

 

[Marvin]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

Of course there was a reaction from Newcastle fans afterwards, especially after the hysterical lynch mob response in the media. Remember the doctored training ground photos where it was claimed De Jong was gleefully re-enacting the challenge?

De Jong does not thoughtlessly lunge into challenges. Not sure how you can possibly make that claim

 

[machiavellian]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

Of course there was a reaction from Newcastle fans afterwards, especially after the hysterical lynch mob response in the media. Remember the doctored training ground photos where it was claimed De Jong was gleefully re-enacting the challenge?

De Jong does not thoughtlessly lunge into challenges. Not sure how you can possibly make that claim

Yes, as I said, I remember the media sponsored witch hunt, and it was entirely unjustified, and often entirely fucking outrageous.

But yes, I'm also of the opinion that De Jong thoughtlessly lunges into challenges.

Less frequently than he used to, but nonetheless, I still think he does.

 

[Marvin]

Well if he did, he'd have been red-carded by now as he is a marked man

He is aggressive when he needs to be, but reckless? I don't recognise that in his game at all. What is noticeable is the amount of time he defends and covers by staying on his feet. Contrast that to players like Cattermole and Scholes. If he tackles, he usually does it cleanly and decisively

 

[Damocles]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that article, you mad, paranoid bastards

 

[SWP's back]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

On the WUM again eh.

 

[machiavellian]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

On the WUM again eh.

On the WUM?

Stop following me around will you?

Daft twat.

 

[SWP's back]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

On the WUM again eh.

On the WUM?

Stop following me around will you?

Daft twat.

I was posting in the thread before you.

(I should report you and you could have yet another ban)

SWP's back

 

[Damocles]

The Newcastle fans weren't unhappy with the challenge?

I take it you weren't at St James' on Boxing Day then PB?

Besides, maybe it's just me who remembers the Newcastle players up arms about the tackle immediately afterwards, and Sir Joey throwing himself into tackles against De Jong with a pinch of menace?

I was in the East Stand directly behind the tackle in question, and although it didn't raise too many eyebrows at the time, I recall a comment along the lines of 'not messing around today is he?' from a blue beside myself, and the perception around me at the time was that the tackle was simply another one of those 'ooh, De Jong going in hard again' round of applause challenges. But in all honesty, in my opinion, it was unnecessarily hard.

De Jong was developing a reputation back then, and that reputation was, and still is, a big part of his game. The intimation factor he brought benefited us on many occasions, and Nige played up to it, he thrived on it no less.

And in my opinion, that tackle, although technically fair, was an example of De Jong 'letting the opposition know he's there' so to speak.

That was my immediate reaction at the time, and after seeing the footage afterwards, that's how it remained.

Nige isn't a nasty, vindictive player, and he'd never intentionally attempt to harm another player, but I do think that tackle was reckless, and the manner in which De Jong often thoughtlessly lunges into challenges, it was simply a matter of time. I know that if one of our players had been on the receiving end of such a tackle I wouldn't be happy.

Nonetheless, that period proved to be a learning curve for Nige and the manner in which we all got behind him following the media witch hunt galvanised the team and we saw some of his best form in a City shirt not long after.

But I maintain, that, in my opinion, the tackle was OTT. But I'm also of the opinion that Daniel Taylor is a bit of a ****, so I'm a hard one to pigeon hole.

On the WUM again eh.

On the WUM?

Stop following me around will you?

Daft twat.

Using numerous proxies.
Bad attitude.
Always WUMming.
Overly Confrontational.
Is probably BT.

Banned.

 

[alky313]

Id say De Jongs madequiye a few mistakes. Breaking Holden's shin is one of them.