Shootings in Paris

ArdwickBlue said:
It would seem other faiths do not like cartoons.

From Wiki:

Mohammad Saba'aneh (Arabic: محمد سباعنة ‎) (born in Jenin district in 1978[1]) is a Palestinian painter and caricaturist from Jenin district. He has been an active member in the Cartoon Movement since August 24, 2009.[2] Saba'aneh is a cartoonist for Al-Hayat al-Jadida, the official newspaper of the Palestinian Authority and also works at the Arab American University in Jenin on the West Bank.[3]

Mohammad Saba'aneh was detained by Israeli authorities on February 6, 2013, and released on July 1, 2013 after serving a five-month sentence after being charged by a military court for "contact with a hostile organization". [4][5][6] Saba'aneh has drawn numerous cartoons focusing on the plight of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli detention.
I know you're a Muslim and I know you're trying to side track the thread but the example you give has nothing to do with Judaism and everything to do with Israelis being arseholes.
 
SWP. As long as they aren't preaching, why can't you respect the belief of a religious person? Simply on the grounds that they are human, that they, through whatever study or chance, have landed on the idea that Islam or Christianity or whatever it is, is their truth.

I'm not religious, but I can respect another person's belief. I don't agree with it obviously, I think it's probably a load of bollocks like you must do, but as long as they're good people why does it matter.. especially to an Atheist.

It's such a big thing to say you don't respect another person's beliefs. It's only having due regard, a little bit of humility and consideration.
 
SWP's back said:
ArdwickBlue said:
It would seem other faiths do not like cartoons.

From Wiki:

Mohammad Saba'aneh (Arabic: محمد سباعنة ‎) (born in Jenin district in 1978[1]) is a Palestinian painter and caricaturist from Jenin district. He has been an active member in the Cartoon Movement since August 24, 2009.[2] Saba'aneh is a cartoonist for Al-Hayat al-Jadida, the official newspaper of the Palestinian Authority and also works at the Arab American University in Jenin on the West Bank.[3]

Mohammad Saba'aneh was detained by Israeli authorities on February 6, 2013, and released on July 1, 2013 after serving a five-month sentence after being charged by a military court for "contact with a hostile organization". [4][5][6] Saba'aneh has drawn numerous cartoons focusing on the plight of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli detention.
I know you're a Muslim and I know you're trying to side track the thread but the example you give has nothing to do with Judaism and everything to do with Israelis being arseholes.

Hehe spot on!
 
TangerineSteve17 said:
SWP. As long as they aren't preaching, why can't you respect the belief of a religious person? Simply on the grounds that they are human, that they, through whatever study or chance, have landed on the idea that Islam or Christianity or whatever it is, is their truth.

I'm not religious, but I can respect another person's belief. I don't agree with it obviously, I think it's probably a load of bollocks like you must do, but as long as they're good people why does it matter.. especially to an Atheist.

It's such a big thing to say you don't respect another person's beliefs. It's only having due regard, a little bit of humility and consideration.
That depends on your point of view.

There are many across the world who view religion as being regressive to humanity and society. Why would you expect them to give respect to a series of doctrines which they feel are detrimental to human progress? You can ask others to respect peoples religious views, but are you also willing to respect and defend those who do not respect religion? Both are equally valid viewpoints. There are people registered in this country as 'Jedi' for example. Now whilst i'm not claiming that people cannot express being registered as a Jedi if they so wish, i'm making the comparison that others might view those who take Jediism seriously as being someone who might need to get their priorities in order...
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
TangerineSteve17 said:
SWP. As long as they aren't preaching, why can't you respect the belief of a religious person? Simply on the grounds that they are human, that they, through whatever study or chance, have landed on the idea that Islam or Christianity or whatever it is, is their truth.

I'm not religious, but I can respect another person's belief. I don't agree with it obviously, I think it's probably a load of bollocks like you must do, but as long as they're good people why does it matter.. especially to an Atheist.

It's such a big thing to say you don't respect another person's beliefs. It's only having due regard, a little bit of humility and consideration.
That depends on your point of view.

There are many across the world who view religion as being regressive to humanity and society. Why would you expect them to give respect to a series of doctrines which they feel are detrimental to human progress? You can ask others to respect peoples religious views, but are you also willing to respect and defend those who do not respect religion? Both are equally valid viewpoints.


Sorry Metal, well thank you really :/ You've made me realize I have substituted religion for belief in God. Whoopsie!
 
TangerineSteve17 said:
SWP. As long as they aren't preaching, why can't you respect the belief of a religious person? Simply on the grounds that they are human, that they, through whatever study or chance, have landed on the idea that Islam or Christianity or whatever it is, is their truth.

I'm not religious, but I can respect another person's belief. I don't agree with it obviously, I think it's probably a load of bollocks like you must do, but as long as they're good people why does it matter.. especially to an Atheist.

It's such a big thing to say you don't respect another person's beliefs. It's only having due regard, a little bit of humility and consideration.
Because a belief is a belief. I can seperate the person from the belief but I refuse accept that any belief deserves respect.

I have no issue respecting theists if I think they are good people, but I'll never respect a belief that is irrational whether they have landed on Islam or Christianity or Yogic fucking flying 'as their truth'.

If they never wish to discuss religion with me then fine, if they want to bring it up, I'll be more than open with my views on it.
 
SWP's back said:
ArdwickBlue said:
It would seem other faiths do not like cartoons.

From Wiki:

Mohammad Saba'aneh (Arabic: محمد سباعنة ‎) (born in Jenin district in 1978[1]) is a Palestinian painter and caricaturist from Jenin district. He has been an active member in the Cartoon Movement since August 24, 2009.[2] Saba'aneh is a cartoonist for Al-Hayat al-Jadida, the official newspaper of the Palestinian Authority and also works at the Arab American University in Jenin on the West Bank.[3]

Mohammad Saba'aneh was detained by Israeli authorities on February 6, 2013, and released on July 1, 2013 after serving a five-month sentence after being charged by a military court for "contact with a hostile organization". [4][5][6] Saba'aneh has drawn numerous cartoons focusing on the plight of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli detention.
I know you're a Muslim and I know you're trying to side track the thread but the example you give has nothing to do with Judaism and everything to do with Israelis being arseholes.

Our survey said, ugh ugh.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
TangerineSteve17 said:
SWP. As long as they aren't preaching, why can't you respect the belief of a religious person? Simply on the grounds that they are human, that they, through whatever study or chance, have landed on the idea that Islam or Christianity or whatever it is, is their truth.

I'm not religious, but I can respect another person's belief. I don't agree with it obviously, I think it's probably a load of bollocks like you must do, but as long as they're good people why does it matter.. especially to an Atheist.

It's such a big thing to say you don't respect another person's beliefs. It's only having due regard, a little bit of humility and consideration.
That depends on your point of view.

There are many across the world who view religion as being regressive to humanity and society. Why would you expect them to give respect to a series of doctrines which they feel are detrimental to human progress? You can ask others to respect peoples religious views, but are you also willing to respect and defend those who do not respect religion? Both are equally valid viewpoints. There are people registered in this country as 'Jedi' for example. Now whilst i'm not claiming that people cannot express being registered as a Jedi if they so wish, i'm making the comparison that others might view those who take Jediism seriously as being someone who might need to get their priorities in order...
You've been knocking it out of the park in this thread buddy.
 
SWP's back said:
TangerineSteve17 said:
SWP. As long as they aren't preaching, why can't you respect the belief of a religious person? Simply on the grounds that they are human, that they, through whatever study or chance, have landed on the idea that Islam or Christianity or whatever it is, is their truth.

I'm not religious, but I can respect another person's belief. I don't agree with it obviously, I think it's probably a load of bollocks like you must do, but as long as they're good people why does it matter.. especially to an Atheist.

It's such a big thing to say you don't respect another person's beliefs. It's only having due regard, a little bit of humility and consideration.
Because a belief is a belief. I can seperate the person from the belief but I refuse accept that any belief deserves respect.

I have no issue respecting theists if I think they are good people, but I'll never respect a belief that is irrational whether they have landed on Islam or Christianity or Yogic fucking flying 'as their truth'.

If they never wish to discuss religion with me then fine, if they want to bring it up, I'll be more than open with my views on it.

My question was meant for respecting people who believe in God. I worded it wrongly, also misunderstood your earlier post, I was on a roll :/

Now that you've answered though, I guess you have no respect for somebody's belief in God because you said any belief, or any belief you find to be irrational. I respect that point of view :) I myself am not quite there. I am 99.99% there but because I don't know absolutely I can say I can respect a God believer.
 

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