Should we keep RM whatever happens this season. Yes or no?

Matt the Giant said:
Adam-mcfc said:
What do we do in two years when Mourinho fucks off to manage Portugal in the world cup or whatever his next project would be? Just get another manager? Watch the club collapse like Inter, Porto, and Chelsea after he left?

Our form for the majority of this season tells me that Bobby is the man for the job. A few shit results and suddenly it's Bobby's head on a plate because he didn't win the title in his second full year in the job. We're making great strides and if we sack him now it'll all be for naught.


So we should have kept Hughes? He was too making strides.
Hughes made very little progress whereas Mancini has given us joint third place and second place in his first two seasons, respectively. Champions League qualification twice and a trophy we've waited ages for to boot.

This season we've broken numerous records and are still on pace to get a record amount of points for the league which we've led for nearly the entire season up until now.

Does Hughes' progress even compare? I know what you meant by it and if we were still languishing in fourth now then I might agree that there hasn't been enough progress and Bobby could possibly be worthy of sacking. But we aren't and he isn't.
 
BillyShears said:
quiet_riot said:
Adam-mcfc said:
What do we do in two years when Mourinho fucks off to manage Portugal in the world cup or whatever his next project would be? Just get another manager? Watch the club collapse like Inter, Porto, and Chelsea after he left?

Our form for the majority of this season tells me that Bobby is the man for the job. A few shit results and suddenly it's Bobby's head on a plate because he didn't win the title in his second full year in the job. We're making great strides and if we sack him now it'll all be for naught.

How dare you talk sense.

There's very little sense in that post. Particularly the part about Mourinho. But then those stupid myths will be peddled until the cows come home on this forum. Just shows how insecure people are about Roberto. Mourinho's the best manager in the world bar fucking none, and he has the trophies, the kudos, the respect, and the job, to back it up.

Mancini's record although very good, just isn't in the same league. I'd have far more respect for people if they came out and said "I just don't like Mourinho". That is a perfectly valid reason for not wanting him at our club. But if you really wanted what's best for City, you'd acknowledge that Mourinho is the best and therefore him coming to the club wouldn't be a bad thing.

But as has already been pointed out, Mourinho doesn't stay anywhere for long. Great, let's have the best there is, no problem, except it will last 2/3 seasons MAX. Then we are back to chopping and changing, new manager, new staff, new players, new ideas.
 
Once again even after today's poor performance, 100% yes Roberto Mancini should be manager of Manchester City next season.
 
quiet_riot said:
BillyShears said:
quiet_riot said:
How dare you talk sense.

There's very little sense in that post. Particularly the part about Mourinho. But then those stupid myths will be peddled until the cows come home on this forum. Just shows how insecure people are about Roberto. Mourinho's the best manager in the world bar fucking none, and he has the trophies, the kudos, the respect, and the job, to back it up.

Mancini's record although very good, just isn't in the same league. I'd have far more respect for people if they came out and said "I just don't like Mourinho". That is a perfectly valid reason for not wanting him at our club. But if you really wanted what's best for City, you'd acknowledge that Mourinho is the best and therefore him coming to the club wouldn't be a bad thing.

But as has already been pointed out, Mourinho doesn't stay anywhere for long. Great, let's have the best there is, no problem, except it will last 2/3 seasons MAX. Then we are back to chopping and changing, new manager, new staff, new players, new ideas.

And if he'd just won us one of the big 2 trophies, then I wouldn't care!
 
Adam-mcfc said:
What do we do in two years when Mourinho fucks off to manage Portugal in the world cup or whatever his next project would be? Just get another manager? Watch the club collapse like Inter, Porto, and Chelsea after he left?

Our form for the majority of this season tells me that Bobby is the man for the job. A few shit results and suddenly it's Bobby's head on a plate because he didn't win the title in his second full year in the job. We're making great strides and if we sack him now it'll all be for naught.

This is so true, we are going through a rough patch as a team at the moment
and at the worst possible time with going for the premiership, but to be saying lets get someone else in, is very short sighted, I think it took Fergurson 6/7 years of trying before he landed the league, we are one to two seasons away from landing the big one, it will come, and Mancini is the man for this job............
 
quiet_riot said:
But as has already been pointed out, Mourinho doesn't stay anywhere for long. Great, let's have the best there is, no problem, except it will last 2/3 seasons MAX. Then we are back to chopping and changing, new manager, new staff, new players, new ideas.

Ok, Mourinho was sacked from Chelsea. He didn't choose to leave. At Inter Milan he was given a short term project - to win the CL. Inter's subsequent collapse is due to Moratti's decision to stop spending. That was the reason he let Mourinho go to Real. Now at Real he's faced with the biggest most political club on earth, in a league facing the "greatest team ever" yet is still top of the league and about to go into the CL semi's. If he leaves it will be as much because of the politics of Real Madrid as the politics of Jose Mourinho. So no, I don't actually believe what you've posted is accurate because I don't believe that Mourinho's supposed shorterm'ism is solely his doing.

What City would represent to him is an opportunity to come and work for the club with the best financial resources in the world, the best owners in the world, in the best league in the world, somewhere where he's craved to return to pretty much since he left. My opinion, his next job will be his last club job. After that it'll be the Portugese national team then retirement.
 
sjk2008 said:
I think the majority of you are being incredibly harsh on Mancini.

Your team has never been anywhere near as close as you are now to win the title. Yes, you've had a few hundred mill pumped in to get you where you are but that doesn't mean success should be instant.

People keep referring to Mourinho @ Chelsea and how he made the step from top 4 to Champions fairly quickly but what you seem to be forgetting is that as I've said, Chelsea were already top 4 material. You weren't.

You've made brilliant progress. Yes, you've stumbled of late and at the moment it may seem to you that this title is wrapped up but it aint over just yet. And, even if it is. There's always next year.

The thing with Mancini is that the position he is in (and whoever else would be in managing City nowadays) is under massive pressure. I think he's handled it very well. Just because this isn't the greatest United team yet you are still only 2nd to them should not mean Mancini should be ousted. I've said time and time again that United have the knack of winning games when not playing their best and that is something which comes with time.

Consistency is exactly what your club needs. Whilst I think Mourinho is the mustard, he would want money to overhaul in certain areas. Next year, under Mancini, you will be in an even better position to win the league than you were at the start of this season. You were never going to keep up the scintillating form you had at the beginning of the season. No team ever does that. All teams go through a bad patch and unfortunately yours is coming at the wrong time but problems as such will iron themselves out over time.

I'm certain that with Mancini still at the helm at the beginning of next season with one or two additions (wingers a must!!) you will be in a better chance to challenge.

I think some of you need to remember where you all were 5 or 10 years back instead of coming across all infuriated and pissed off because you've blown your first ever real chance of winning the league. Your first ever real chance. IT WONT BE YOUR LAST EVER CHANCE!

Plus, this season isn't over yet. If there was any team in United's run in (other than yourselves) who I fel could be the banana skin for them - it was Blackburn.

FFS, keep the faith man. Think yourself lucky you're not getting beat to Notts County et al and scoring less than a goal a game down in League One.

You should be grateful of the position you are in and Mancini has played a massive part in getting you there.


Phew!! That was a long one.

Anyways, thanks buddy.
 
Not sure if the Daily Hate Mail are doing their usual stirring but a new story on the site says.

Up until now there has been little appetite for removing the Italian from his job.

But sources at the club say the Abu Dhabi regime will change their stance if City's recent collapse continues through the rest of the season.

Full story: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2123400/Roberto-Mancini-knows-game-up.html?ito=feeds-newsxml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ds-newsxml</a>
 
Adam-mcfc said:
What do we do in two years when Mourinho fucks off to manage Portugal in the world cup or whatever his next project would be? Just get another manager? Watch the club collapse like Inter, Porto, and Chelsea after he left?

Porto still got to the last 16 the year after Mourinho left, and that was with him bringing some key players to Chelsea with him the summer before.

Chelsea lost on a terrible John Terry penalty in the CL final the year Mourinho left. The next year, they finished 3rd, 7 points adrift. The next year, they won the double.

Last year, despite a disasterous start by Rafa Benitez, Inter still finished 2nd, comfortably, in Serie A.

If a team collapses apart after Mourinho leaves, it's because his successor didn't build the team well. Why he should get the blame for why his former teams are bad a year or two after he leaves is beyond me.
 

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