Sign martinez now

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Darkhorse said:
Matt the Giant said:
zlaz3r said:


Its now or never!!!!



It's now, I'm sure.


I was sure about Hazard. I don't like being sure anymore.

If we would have paid the agents fee then it was done mate! Chelsea were desperate to sign youth! £32m fee was agreed and his personal terms but then their was a £6m fee to the agent which we said to go fuck himself!!
 
I never liked that bit about wanting to play for Barca. Sorry ITKs until we can track him on the flight checker I ain't getting giddy about this one.
 
richards30 said:
Darkhorse said:
Matt the Giant said:
It's now, I'm sure.

I was sure about Hazard. I don't like being sure anymore.
If we would have paid the agents fee then it was done mate! Chelsea were desperate to sign youth! £32m fee was agreed and his personal terms but then their was a £6m fee to the agent which we said to go fuck himself!!

I understand why we're not willing to be bent over any more, but anyone else think we may have tightened up a season or two too soon? Barca, Real etc, they get away with it because players want to go there despite the money. Nasri had the sense to see where we were going and forced it through with his agent, but it's not going to be the same with everyone. We really, really should have signed Hazard. If we'd won the league next season, maybe even another cup, a great run in the CL, we could have been finding more players like Nasri saying "Wait up, I want in on this, get it fucking done".

If we missed out on Martinez in the same circumstances as Hazard it would be a crying shame. Two players that could be some of the best in the world in their respective positions in a few years time. I realise we've already taken the hit with the whole rapid squad build scenario, but we were never going to go from nobodies to desirable number 1 in a few seasons. We may still have to take one for the team for a little longer.
 
Rammyblues said:
I never liked that bit about wanting to play for Barca. Sorry ITKs until we can track him on the flight checker I ain't getting giddy about this one.

Me too mate.

I can't see him coming. last year they bought Sanchez and Fabregas and failed to sign a CB. They were found out at times defensively with Puyol injured aswell as lacking firepower (bar Messi) with Villa also injured.

I see them selling a few fringe players and getting Martniez, their first choice is T.Silva but at his fee he's a no go. Martinez is perfect for them as he plays CB, CDM and CM. I can definitely see him in Barca coulours hence why I'm not bothered anymore. If he comes then bonus.

It's all gone quite on M'Vila and I'm starting to wonder if we have him signed or at least close?
 
We should close this deal fast

Well if it ain't done in a day or two he is off to the Olympics with the Spanish squad so IMO won't see anyhtuing on this until after August the 5th (you just know the Spanish will be in the final).
 
adrianr said:
richards30 said:
Darkhorse said:
I was sure about Hazard. I don't like being sure anymore.
If we would have paid the agents fee then it was done mate! Chelsea were desperate to sign youth! £32m fee was agreed and his personal terms but then their was a £6m fee to the agent which we said to go fuck himself!!

I understand why we're not willing to be bent over any more, but anyone else think we may have tightened up a season or two too soon? Barca, Real etc, they get away with it because players want to go there despite the money. Nasri had the sense to see where we were going and forced it through with his agent, but it's not going to be the same with everyone. We really, really should have signed Hazard. If we'd won the league next season, maybe even another cup, a great run in the CL, we could have been finding more players like Nasri saying "Wait up, I want in on this, get it fucking done".

If we missed out on Martinez in the same circumstances as Hazard it would be a crying shame. Two players that could be some of the best in the world in their respective positions in a few years time. I realise we've already taken the hit with the whole rapid squad build scenario, but we were never going to go from nobodies to desirable number 1 in a few seasons. We may still have to take one for the team for a little longer.

I think we have little or no choice because of FFFP and its fairly indicative of how close to the line we are. looks to me like we are trying to clear the decks as much as we can

Personally the only way we will get this guy is to meet the release clause certainly Barca wont but they dont need too if reports are true of his preference being Barca
 
Out of all the players we have been linked with, this is the one guy I am truly excited about. Yes we do need a pacey winger but an upgrade to DeJong and cover at CB is a greater need. I don't see FFP being a problem so long as we get rid of the deadwood hence why no acquisitions yet. We have seen some deadwood move on e.g. Pizzaro, Hargreaves and Taylor which free up some wages but no fee. Bridges move has probably given us back 10k a week. If we are in for Martinez then DeJong will be gone which gives us circa 8mill and around 70k in wages. If Ade goes for 5mill we will free up circa 170k in wages, if Santa goes the fee will be 1k and wages saved of 80k. Guidetti is rumoured to be off and fee of 8mill seems sensible. Weiss looks like he will be sold for around 4mill. That's 25mill for a bunch of players that don't play with the exception of DeJong but his position is being upgraded.

Then you have Boyata and Savic. I think 1 will be sold which would gives us very nearly the funds to meet Javis buyout clause.

You then have Dzeko, Tevez and Johnson. Dzeko funds = Van Persies aquisition price so that isn't a problem and his wages will be covered by Ade's sale.

If Johnson goes say for 15mill and tevez for 25mill we have the funds for Cavani. So the net outlay is zero. That said we will have to spend some money to bring in a 3rd keeper and a pacey winger.

We also have funds potentially coming in if we sell kolo and MJ. FFP is not an issue for me.
 
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