Silva v's Scholes

[ellspark]

We all know that we hate the RAGs, they hate us. And there's sticking up for your own etc. But it drives me crazy when fans, and this goes for every team, can't call a spade a spade.

Respect the player if the player deserves it. IF the player is top class, call the player top class. There's rivalry and bitterness and then there's just stupidity.

On note with this topic. I think Silva and Scholes are from 2 different eras. Scholes is one of the last players of his generation, (a much better generation in many ways, pity there's so few of them left now) it's sad that we don't get to compare them both in their prime. Scholes at the top of his game, is one of the best English players I've ever seen.

It's up to Silva to show us how good he can be.

 

[TFC]

Stupid argument. Scholes was then, Silva is now.

 

[zangatangring]

Silva is better for us and Scholes is better for United. Plain and simple.



Both are world class.

 

[gerrygowsjockstrap]

1 thing about Scholes, if he did'nt play for the rags. He would have received treble the red cards he got. Meaning he would never have made it to the top. Most players get slagged for taking another player out of the game. But with Scholes it was a case of pundits laughing & saying we all know he can't tackle.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Let's be realistic here, Silva has time on his side but I'll tell you what, that little Ginger Twat "Was" one of the best players of his generation no question ! I'm a Blue but you have to admire what a player he was - take off your blue tinted specs for a minute and any genuine football fan would agree.

Yes would agree with that, as much as I hate to admit, Scholes, on form played the game like a chess master and was someone I could have watched play the game all day had he not been a rag.

 

[Citizen52]

The Scholes thing is a bit of a strange one.

He is easily the best English midfielder in a generation or two.

That said, those talking about him in the same breath as Zidane et al are on some good shit.

Silva is the more clever and inventive player. Scholes has a definite edge on lethalness in the final third.

I don't know if you're referring to my post (if you weren't just ignore this) but I was alluding to what Zidane said about Scholes. I wouldn't put Scholes up at that level but he was an excellent player, my only regret is that we didn't see him playing more for England.

 

[Project]

The Scholes thing is a bit of a strange one.

He is easily the best English midfielder in a generation or two.

That said, those talking about him in the same breath as Zidane et al are on some good shit.

Silva is the more clever and inventive player. Scholes has a definite edge on lethalness in the final third.

I don't know if you're referring to my post (if you weren't just ignore this) but I was alluding to what Zidane said about Scholes. I wouldn't put Scholes up at that level but he was an excellent player, my only regret is that we didn't see him playing more for England.

Nah mate, the quote from Red Cafe and other places. Even the one from Nasri.

 

[bluealf]

1 thing about Scholes, if he did'nt play for the rags. He would have received treble the red cards he got. Meaning he would never have made it to the top. Most players get slagged for taking another player out of the game. But with Scholes it was a case of pundits laughing & saying we all know he can't tackle.

I read all 3 pages and was hoping nobody else had said this, oh well.

lol

He would have missed a third of a season if he played for Everton or Newcastle or us for that matter.

A good player no doubt about it but he was sneaky dirty **** with it.

 

[TFC]

Lets just get another thing straight as well, the superlatives for Silva from other pros will be as gushing and as many as they were for Scholes as his career continues.

 

[BETTER-DEAD-THAN-RED]

what your all forgeting here is that he is a prick.

even if he played better than messi i would still not let him anywear near a blue shirt.

 

[ellspark]

what your all forgeting here is that he is a prick.

even if he played better than messi i would still not let him anywear near a blue shirt.

Whether he is a prick or not is irrelevant.

He is a player who gives 100% to his team. That's what you need.
And how many other players out there are able to almost single handedly pull their team up by the bootlaces to get them back into a game. There are a very small amount of players who can do that, and he's one of them.

When all the big stars go missing, he was nearly always there to pull them back. Tell you what, the RAGs are really going to struggle without him.

There's a whole bunch of defenders/forwards/wingers etc who stand out. But when you look at a lot of teams it's in the middle of the park where they struggle.

What a pity he was with the RAGs and an awful pity for England that he spent so little time playing for them.

 

[ultimateharold]

“He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.” - Fabregas

“Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football.” - Sir Bobby Charlton

“If he [Scholes] was playing with me, I would score so many more.” - Pele

“I want to pass like him. Who taught him how to do that?” - Ronaldinho about Scholes

“Scholes is the best i’ve played with and he helped me a lot when I was young. He’s amazing.” - Rooney

“Paul Scholes is a living legend.” - Iniesta

“The best player I’ve played with or against.” - Rooney

"Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always asked me 'what's he [Scholes] like'? They respect him as a footballer." - David Beckham

“Nobody else in the world can play the way Scholes does. The passes he can produce are brilliant." - Berbatov

“Sad to hear Paul Scholes is retiring, great player, world class player, the English Zizou.” - Nasri

“I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago." - Henry

“He’s almost untouchable in what he does. I never tire of watching him play. You rarely come across the complete footballer, but Scholes is as close to it as you can get. - Zidane.

Some of the stuff said about Scholes by other rival players.

Half of these must be patronising.

Zidane, Henry, for a start - Both far superior to him.

The rest, alcoholics, pensioners and illiterates.

 

[Spurs fan in peace]

“He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.” - Fabregas

“Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football.” - Sir Bobby Charlton

“If he [Scholes] was playing with me, I would score so many more.” - Pele

“I want to pass like him. Who taught him how to do that?” - Ronaldinho about Scholes

“Scholes is the best i’ve played with and he helped me a lot when I was young. He’s amazing.” - Rooney

“Paul Scholes is a living legend.” - Iniesta

“The best player I’ve played with or against.” - Rooney

"Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always asked me 'what's he [Scholes] like'? They respect him as a footballer." - David Beckham

“Nobody else in the world can play the way Scholes does. The passes he can produce are brilliant." - Berbatov

“Sad to hear Paul Scholes is retiring, great player, world class player, the English Zizou.” - Nasri

“I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago." - Henry

“He’s almost untouchable in what he does. I never tire of watching him play. You rarely come across the complete footballer, but Scholes is as close to it as you can get. - Zidane.

Some of the stuff said about Scholes by other rival players.

Half of these must be patronising.

Zidane, Henry, for a start - Both far superior to him.

The rest, alcoholics, pensioners and illiterates.

jesus! are you serious?! why can't you just accept Paul Scholes is one of the greatest players of his generation and WORLD CLASS players who play and excel in the game think so! even to add to that list of quotes I think it was Xavi Alonso who said if Scholes was Spanish everyone would say he's the best player in the world he's incredible!

there's no doubt David Silva's an excellent player but Scholes played and dominated at the top for over a decade, calling Silva "on a par" after 30 odd games and one season is crazy and hugely biased. He has the potential no doubt but have the debate in 10 years time

right now
Scholes > Silva
clearly

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

Threads like this show City fans up, The bitterness is unreal, if Scholes played for us as long as he did for them lot, and did the things he has done, he would be held in higher esteem than Bell et el.

The guy was a genius, the model profession, and a huge reason why they have been at the top for so long.

Its a shame that some people cannot see past who he had his success with.

 

[BibbyBlue85]

Threads like this show City fans up, The bitterness is unreal, if Scholes played for us as long as he did for them lot, and did the things he has done, he would be held in higher esteem than Bell et el.

The guy was a genius, the model profession, and a huge reason why they have been at the top for so long.

Its a shame that some people cannot see past who he had his success with.

Bollox!

Silva has much more in his locker than Scholes ever did.

Guy a genious? Don't make me laugh, he was nothin more than a ball spreader who can't tackle for shit

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

Threads like this show City fans up, The bitterness is unreal, if Scholes played for us as long as he did for them lot, and did the things he has done, he would be held in higher esteem than Bell et el.

The guy was a genius, the model profession, and a huge reason why they have been at the top for so long.

Its a shame that some people cannot see past who he had his success with.

Bollox!

Silva has much more in his locker than Scholes ever did.

Guy a genious? Don't make me laugh, he was nothin more than a ball spreader who can't tackle for shit

Not once did i bring Silva into my arguement, my arguement was more to do with Scholes as a footballer, anyway i'd be made up of Silva wins half as much as Scholes did for them.

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Ball spreader, comon mate, now if you would of called Carrick that, i would of agreed entirely.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Silva still has the rest of his career ahead of him so it's not the best argument to go on about...

I never watched a whole lot of Scholes in his prime but it's clear he was a great footballer (and held in high-esteem by some big names), but to say he's the best of his generation, one which includes the likes of Zidane and Ronaldo, not too sure about that.

 

[Pigeonho]

Silva does have more skill than Scholes but so far lacks the same scoring rate. Obviously though he has plenty of time to rectify that. Scholes was a world class player though and anyone who doesn't see that clearly has either blue goggles on or an embarrassingly low level of knowledge.
When Silva retires only then can a true comparison be made.

 

[Atebash]

In my opinion, Paul Scholes is a player who had a steady career for years, making him a football legend. It's really not easy to keep such a good form for so many years. Silva is still too young to be called a legend, he could (and I hope he won't) drop his form and slowly fade away. Silva and Scholes are not even the same type of player, you can't compare them just like that.

 

[MCFC 4 EVER]

The ginger rodent is nothing compared to Silva, the rodent is a dirty vile disgusting player who gets sent off, whilst Silva is a classy, techinically gifted player