Singing section/Atmosphere

Tonight probably isn't the game to be judging how well the singing section is working, the Bristol City fans were top tonight and they should have been when you consider how well their team played.

The problem is still where we should put the away fans. Giving them prime position right behind the goal isn't good but tonight when we shunted them up to a higher tier they just had better acoustics with not enough of our fans next to them to compete.
 
Leto said:
Tonight probably isn't the game to be judging how well the singing section is working, the Bristol City fans were top tonight and they should have been when you consider how well their team played.

The problem is still where we should put the away fans. Giving them prime position right behind the goal isn't good but tonight when we shunted them up to a higher tier they just had better acoustics with not enough of our fans next to them to compete.
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we dont need fans next to them to compete though. we've had away fans next to our singing bit for years now and it makes no difference. i think its better having just a whole end with just city fans, rather then what we have for league games.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
yea your right. the whole atmosphere thing is doing my head in now. i think for a lot of people its becoming a big issue. we need to sort this out now and club needs to help out because its the same discussions going on here. some great suggestions, but when you get to the ground there are too many people that are robots. they dont react, cheer or sing to anything.

one of the main reasons i love going to football or always post on threads like this is because i like atmosphere and going to games and singing my head off. its becoming crap to go now in that regard.
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Pep and and many players would enjoy a much louder support. Now Soriano, Txiki and Pep are visionaries and are developing a worldwide operating CFG Group.
I simply have no idea why they are able to forget a fundamental part of the game.
Great home support is also a trigger for players to join such a club. It's an advantage against competitors.
The main mechanisms are no rocket science and well known for decades. Why such a big and visionary club refuses to implement a project team with the clear target to improve MCFC's fanbase and match atmosphere is totally beyond me.
 
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Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
we dont need fans next to them to compete though. we've had away fans next to our singing bit for years now and it makes no difference. i think its better having just a whole end with just city fans, rather then what we have for league games.
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We need to move the away fans out of the South Stand.
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
Singing constantly for singing's sake is so yesterday. Mancs lead the way in this world and if that means we sing when we want then so be it.
Next thing we'll be Germans turning our backs with choreography megaphone cheerleader nob heads telling us what we're singing next.
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You are free to join in or not though. I prefer that choice to hearing a pin drop.
But I get what you mean and match independent singsung can be very very nervy.

That's why the St.Pauli fanbase is split between a cheer-leaded nonstop singing Ultra group and a situation dependent "old school" set of supporters. They have accepted each other after years of debate about "true fans". Now they are joining their songs when they want. But they both support what they love as good as they can. Sure it helps that the "old school" group has alone 10,000 people on a standing terrace. All hail the Kippax.

Anyway, when "singing when you want" means ignore what your team needs, it's just lazy, consume minded non-support. IMO.
 
Aging demographic. Higher prices and the higher cost of living mean that many cant afford it, certainly at that phase in life you get involved in buying houses, weddings, and having babies. A few can manage, if they've foregone those things or lucky enough to earn big money, and youre alright while you still live cheaply with your parents. Personally I've had no chance for 5 years now and secretly hoped id get some city tickets off santa, as i miss it :/
 
1894 just so happens to be the average birth year of our fan base. Nobody even WANTS to sing, so literally any attempt to make them sing will fail.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Tonight the noise made by 7000 fans in one stand was impressive. But it makes you think, that’s only just over half of the Anfield Kop.

Imagine being provided with a stand of 12000 all for your own fans in one tier by the club. It’s going to be even bigger at White Hart Lane when it’s done.

We’ve got a block in a small tier next to away fans or completely surrounded by away fans in the cups. It’s pitiful and just so plainly in the wrong place, it really gets under my skin!
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You could provide a stand with 20,000 in it. Have you read jrb's post? If the majority just stand there staring at away fans with arms folded too cool to sing so what's the point. You can make as many excuses about acoustics as you like, the fact is people have moved to the singing section to be near atmosphere not to create it. Same with safe standing. I keep seeing this as the saviour of atmosphere. It will just be another white elephant. The South Stand stand now. They've been out sung by teams who have only filled the south stand lower regularly.
 
The 1894 group do a great job the fact is we have an ageing match going support and most don’t want to sing, until we get groups of lads in the 18-30 age group attending in big numbers nothing will change.
 
wythenshaweblue£££ said:
Wasn’t good tonight in the north but in fairness it isn’t normally. Me and my lad will be moving end of the season it’s a shame most people just don’t want to sing in anyway or get the team going.
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Had a season ticket in the North Stand till South Stand 3 was built and we move. I witnessed our two Premier League wins from there and can confirm it was always silent.

Don't blame the kids or the tourists, lots of long term blues who are lazy, non-supporting fans. I do remember them standing up and clapping if we scored!

I remember being looked at whilst trying to get a song going against the Rags when we were getting beat. Pathetic.

The only thing I miss is the view, 20 rows up behind Sergio's goal!
 
nellyonthewing said:
Hands up I'm not in the Country most of the Season but I've served my time over the decades. My recent experience of the Family Stand was not great . One issue was that when we were down the other end you had to turn backwards to look at the cameras to see what the hell was going on. Surrounded as I was by youngsters I was surprised at their lack of engagement. No singing,nothing really unless we scored. Part of this was due to our long periods of possession which hypnotised the opposition but tranquilized the crowd.
An observation of the younger fans was that it was a bit like being in a Cinema ,people watching ,munching snacks and generally just watching.....I don't know what the solution is other than the 'embarrasement' at singing might be overcome if adjoining areas were making noise.
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Yeah these pesky kids , they should be flicking the vs at the opposition fans and singing “you’re going to get your fucking head kicked in.”

Here we go, the singing section don’t sing and create atmosphere and it’s the family stands fault.

There are plenty of blues in the south stand and to the other side of the away fans. As for it’s much noisier at the top tier as demonstrated last night by Bristol and Burnley . Christ most games the entire top tier of the south stand is city fans.

The fact is the home fans are spoilt and want us to be a couple of goals up against top tier opposition before atmosphere is created.

Listen to our away support very vocal. I dunno may be our away fans are a bit more pissed and on a day out so we enjoy ourselves a bit more and join in the singing.

Whatever it is it’s not the family stands fault.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ve said in the past. I genuinely think the last new City chant we made up was The Best Team In The Land And All The World about twenty years ago.

Not had a new City chant since.

It’s always player or manager chants and they come and go so often you lose them and are left with nothing but the tired old chants.

We need to forget about player and manager chants and get some new City chants!
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I’ve got one for the Scousers......

Yesterday, all your trophies seem so far away
Now it looks as if they’ve gone away
Oh you believe in yesterday

Suddenly, you’re not half the club you used to be
Droning on about your history
And left behind by Man City
 
What's the point of South Stand level 1 being able to stand if they just stand in total silence for 95% of the game?

You get maybe 1-2 songs right after a goal but then absolutely nothing after that.

I think most people go in there just so they can shout abuse at the away fans.

Makes me think about safe standing and how it likely won't have an impact on atmosphere.
 
St.Pauli support said:
Pep and and many players would enjoy a much louder support. Now Soriano, Txiki and Pep are visionaries and are developing a worldwide operating CFG Group.
I simply have no idea why they are able to forget a fundamental part of the game.
Great home support is also a trigger for players to join such a club. It's an advantage against competitors.
The main mechanisms are no rocket science and well known for decades. Why such a big and visionary club refuses to implement a project team with the clear target to improve MCFC's fanbase and match atmosphere is totally beyond me.
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They can't make people sing, forget the acoustics, forget splitting the south stand up and forget all the other excuses, our atmosphere is shit because people don't sing, that's it in a nutshell...
 
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