Sky - Mané Red card poll (official appeal rejected)

[Neville Kneville]

Too right - Liverpool had favourable reffing for decades and have always moaned like fuck about any decision they dislike. This one is a more blatantly correct decision, but anyone remember the 'Geoff Hurst' effort by David White in August 1991? I was a modern languages student at the time, spending my summer abroad. I got back to Manchester three weeks after the game, and Elton Welsby was still banging on about the ball not crossing the line nightly in the Granada Reports sports news segments. Makes you sick.

PS - Apologies if that's been mentioned already. I've not seen it and there are too many pages to hunt through to see if there's a reference.

I remember it very well.

Elton Welsby was a Evertonian, but like many of the modern day pundits, could see the benefits of keeping hordes of self entitled red scouse simpletons hooked on the subject.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

They do, its one rule for us, and a different one for everyone else.

haha very true.

 

[casserole of nonsense]

I think there's virtually zero chance of the ban being reduced. Corruption cannot be seen to take such a manifest form.

Just how gobsmacked would we all really be if the ban was reduced?
Sadly, not very...even you hedged your bets and inserted "virtually".

 

[abu13]

Having reflected on this i would say the following.
The one fact that is being missed by everyone is that Ederson was the favourate to get to the ball not Mane, He was able to get his head to the ball without diving for it, If Mane had chosen to go with his head or chest the chance would have gone as he was never getting there first. As such he takes a gamble and lunges forward with his foot, he miss judged the challenge and was rightly sent off. He clearly saw he keeper and made the decision to go for the ball, once he did this he had to take the ball and the moment he failed there was no option but to send him off.

Just switch this one for a minute, If Mane had just clipped the ball past Ederson with his head and Ederson had come flying out of his area with a kung fu kick catching Mane in the face would it have been treated any differently?

You have to factor in the height of the challenge, the fact that the studs were showing, the fact that Mane was fully aware of Edersons position, the speed of the player when contact was made. All of these facts make the tackle dangerous and reckless.

It's funny how the line " I would expect him to make the challenge " keeps getting rolled out.
Lineker.
Shearer.
Wright.
Sutton.
All forwards and mostly ****s.

 

[Carlos- the- jackal]

I don't think you do, the whole idea of giving the extra game for frivolous appeal was to stop suspended player appealing which allowed him to play next game whilst appeal was being hears.

They've since sped up the appeal process and scrapped extra game for frivolous appeal afaik.

Nope, the frivolous appeal caveat is still in place and Mane could get an extra game if the panel feel this meets the criteria.

 

[Rolee]

Nope, the frivolous appeal caveat is still in place and Mane could get an extra game if the panel feel this meets the criteria.

Let's hope he does then.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Having reflected on this i would say the following.
The one fact that is being missed by everyone is that Ederson was the favourate to get to the ball not Mane, He was able to get his head to the ball without diving for it, If Mane had chosen to go with his head or chest the chance would have gone as he was never getting there first. As such he takes a gamble and lunges forward with his foot, he miss judged the challenge and was rightly sent off. He clearly saw he keeper and made the decision to go for the ball, once he did this he had to take the ball and the moment he failed there was no option but to send him off.

Just switch this one for a minute, If Mane had just clipped the ball past Ederson with his head and Ederson had come flying out of his area with a kung fu kick catching Mane in the face would it have been treated any differently?

You have to factor in the height of the challenge, the fact that the studs were showing, the fact that Mane was fully aware of Edersons position, the speed of the player when contact was made. All of these facts make the tackle dangerous and reckless.

It's funny how the line " I would expect him to make the challenge " keeps getting rolled out.
Lineker.
Shearer.
Wright.
Sutton.
All forwards and mostly ****s.

I don't have a problem in anyone thinking he should make the challenge.

Shearer and Wright were both clear that, while they don't like the current law, a red card was correct.

 

[abu13]

I would be happier if the FA could clarify the reasons for the red card in a statement following the appeal.

For instance " the tackle while not undertaken with the intention of harming the opponent was viewed as being dangerous and reckless due the the high foot and exposed studs and as is in violation of the rules of the game and as such we are 100% behind the decision of the referee"

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

If Ederson was English, he'd be being lauded for his bravery for sticking his head in

 

[Neville Kneville]

Having reflected on this i would say the following.
The one fact that is being missed by everyone is that Ederson was the favourate to get to the ball not Mane, He was able to get his head to the ball without diving for it, If Mane had chosen to go with his head or chest the chance would have gone as he was never getting there first. As such he takes a gamble and lunges forward with his foot, he miss judged the challenge and was rightly sent off. He clearly saw he keeper and made the decision to go for the ball, once he did this he had to take the ball and the moment he failed there was no option but to send him off.

Just switch this one for a minute, If Mane had just clipped the ball past Ederson with his head and Ederson had come flying out of his area with a kung fu kick catching Mane in the face would it have been treated any differently?

You have to factor in the height of the challenge, the fact that the studs were showing, the fact that Mane was fully aware of Edersons position, the speed of the player when contact was made. All of these facts make the tackle dangerous and reckless.

It's funny how the line " I would expect him to make the challenge " keeps getting rolled out.
Lineker.
Shearer.
Wright.
Sutton.
All forwards and mostly ****s.

If Ederson had done the same to Mane, it would be 'criminally reckless' & the narrative would be one of condemnation.

I've always been a strong believer in the existence of media bias but this has even taken me by surprise.

If it was at the other end & Aguero had studded their keeper in the face at head height, I just can't imagine most of us on here would be defending him on it. A less obvious incident, then yes we may have arguments on it, but this, it's studs in the face ffs, it's a sending off, 50 years ago, if the ref is that close & it's that obvious, whatever these fuckers on tv say.