Mister Appointment said:moomba said:As well as the "I'm alright Jack" brigade I should really have mentioned the "if you don't like it, go and support someone else brigade". My bad.
It's funny that we can discuss all aspects of the team, players, manager and performances on here without having to make a choice of like it or lump it.
You can discuss what you like, I'm not trying to censor you. However I do stand by my previous post. I'm not forcing you to make any choice, just pointing out that if you think the atmosphere's gone, the soul is gone, you're being ripped off, then maybe PL football ain't for you as it's the same at all clubs, especially from a financial perspective, CL clubs. And our club is still the cheapest of all the CL clubs in the PL in terms of ticket prices.
cleavers said:Going back to why PB posted what he did, and partly the subject of this thread, the fact that a couple of enterprising "passionate" blues managed to get into the stadium last night, and this threads subject about fans trying and sadly failing to rent an office to watch the game "live", but were shopped by people from our own club (in the case of the lads), I think he's right to say someone has lost sight of something.
99.9% of us would applaud the lads that managed to get in last night (and those that headed to Moscow knowing they wouldn't see the game), and instead of shopping them, the club should be telling the world that this is just how passionate our support really is, using it to market the club.
moomba said:Mister Appointment said:moomba said:As well as the "I'm alright Jack" brigade I should really have mentioned the "if you don't like it, go and support someone else brigade". My bad.
It's funny that we can discuss all aspects of the team, players, manager and performances on here without having to make a choice of like it or lump it.
You can discuss what you like, I'm not trying to censor you. However I do stand by my previous post. I'm not forcing you to make any choice, just pointing out that if you think the atmosphere's gone, the soul is gone, you're being ripped off, then maybe PL football ain't for you as it's the same at all clubs, especially from a financial perspective, CL clubs. And our club is still the cheapest of all the CL clubs in the PL in terms of ticket prices.
We could walk away, in which case nothing will change. Or we can continue to talk about it, and to highlight instances where the actions of the club are incompatible with the way we want our club to act. Like I said before, we're at a crossroads IMO and it really has nothing to do with what happens on the pitch.
Pricing is a big one, cup schemes another one for me, platinum scheme, the hole issue of loyalty points, the level 2 debacle and before it the North stand debacle, if the above story is true that'll make the list.dobobobo said:moomba said:Mister Appointment said:You can discuss what you like, I'm not trying to censor you. However I do stand by my previous post. I'm not forcing you to make any choice, just pointing out that if you think the atmosphere's gone, the soul is gone, you're being ripped off, then maybe PL football ain't for you as it's the same at all clubs, especially from a financial perspective, CL clubs. And our club is still the cheapest of all the CL clubs in the PL in terms of ticket prices.
We could walk away, in which case nothing will change. Or we can continue to talk about it, and to highlight instances where the actions of the club are incompatible with the way we want our club to act. Like I said before, we're at a crossroads IMO and it really has nothing to do with what happens on the pitch.
Like what? (A sincere question)
Some Blues on here after the Liverpool match were bashing the keyboard stating that the club had lost its soul because they put electronic advertisement boards on level 2. They failed to realise that those adverts mean money is coming into the club!
moomba said:dobobobo said:moomba said:We could walk away, in which case nothing will change. Or we can continue to talk about it, and to highlight instances where the actions of the club are incompatible with the way we want our club to act. Like I said before, we're at a crossroads IMO and it really has nothing to do with what happens on the pitch.
Like what? (A sincere question)
Some Blues on here after the Liverpool match were bashing the keyboard stating that the club had lost its soul because they put electronic advertisement boards on level 2. They failed to realise that those adverts mean money is coming into the club!
(1)Pricing is a big one, (2)cup schemes another one for me, (3)platinum scheme, (4)the hole issue of loyalty points, (5)the level 2 debacle and (6)before it the North stand debacle, (7)if the above story is true that'll make the list.
(8)I even look at things like the pre match "event". I don't usually get in until last minute but I did on the weekend as I wanted to show my appreciation to the womens team and their achievement. I watched how we set up for the festivities and it was very slick and professional. A lot to like about it, but it seemed totally unfamiliar to me, and I wonder if you asked people in the crowd what they really wanted to lead into the match how many would choose something like that. Not a big deal this one but was something I thought of at the time.
unsworthblue said:Similar thing happened in the Faroes when one of city's plod (now retired) pointed out one of the lads in an area of the ground he thought he shouldn't of been in and was then given a hard time by the local plod on duty,jobsworths making their bosses happy isn't a new concept
moomba said:1. It may be an issue that all clubs have to deal with, IMO ours arent dealing with it well.
2. My opinion, something that gives a first year supporter on the cup scheme priority over a 20 year season ticket holder who can't go on the scheme is wrong.
3. What is right with it? Cash for points.
4. Not what I was on about. I can earn more loyalty points from joining each scheme and platinum than I could for anyear of away games not that long ago. For me thats wrong.
5. Nothing but I don't want them particularly when it comes with annual price increases. My concerns are more about the way the move to hospitality is being managed.
6. Same as what is happening on L2.
7. Not sure what you're on about
8. Some people like cocktail parties, some like BBQ's. Slick, choreographed, forced entertainment isnt really what I look forward to at the football. I prefer more spontaneous, crowd led stuff. I don't mind City Square, but once I get in Id prefer the entertainment is left to the crowd.
I'll add in things like Viagog which IMO we should be able to talkmabout on here without being told to like it or walk away.