*SMOKING IN THE STADIUM*

[vonksbignose]

If you stand there having a cigarette and i am inhaling YOUR DIRTY smoke, that is very unhealthy, i may as well be smoking myself. If you stand next to me when i am drinking there are no health implication whatsoever upon yourself. Also like i have said in earlier posts, there should be an area for people to go and smoke, in an open space, like a pen attatched to the ground on the outside. So compare someone smoking to drinking and saying it will effect peoples health in the same way is just laughable.

it depends how many beers you have had how unhealthy it would be to stand next to you.

Thank you for saving me the job of making this response. I have no choice in whether or not some drunk pillock decides to come & twat me in the face, or to get in his car and potentially run me over if he's been "drinking inconsiderately". In this sense, he is just as much of a potential health risk to me as the "inconsiderate smokers" are to you! I have a bit of experience around this mate, so don't tell me that drinking doesn't potentially affect other peoples health!

So I'll ask you again, if this is about your health, and not just a crusade against freedom of choice, why couldn't the law have been drafted to allow for smoking withing designated sections of the stadium "bowl"?

 

[perpetualprism]

total total bolocks, its because airline companies realised that smoking in a confined space is not nice to people that dont smoke, and at 37,000ft up there isnt anywhere else to go. Just like in the stadium, if you need a piss and the toilets are all full of people smoking, there is nowhere else to go is there!!!

You just believe anything the media tells you really, don't you?

Here's the science:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9992" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp ... &p_id=9992</a>

That's actually the raw data as well, so you can draw your own conclusions from it. The air quality on smoking flights is between 532 and 25,000 times cleaner than the Air Quality laws require.

you shouldn't believe the first bit of info you find on google.
check this shit out-

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cabinair/ventilation.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.boeing.com/commercial/cabinair/ventilation.pdf</a>

 

[Damocles]

If you stand there having a cigarette and i am inhaling YOUR DIRTY smoke, that is very unhealthy, i may as well be smoking myself.

You really didn't read the data in my last post did you?

Unless you stand next to a smoker for a significant amount of time in your life, passive smoking will not effect you. Also, the chemical makeup of primary and secondary smoke are so different that it makes your last sentence ignorant beyond belief.
Using your logic, I just need to swim next to a submarine and I should be able to breathe underwater.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

total total bolocks, its because airline companies realised that smoking in a confined space is not nice to people that dont smoke, and at 37,000ft up there isnt anywhere else to go. Just like in the stadium, if you need a piss and the toilets are all full of people smoking, there is nowhere else to go is there!!!

You just believe anything the media tells you really, don't you?

Here's the science:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9992" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp ... &p_id=9992</a>

That's actually the raw data as well, so you can draw your own conclusions from it. The air quality on smoking flights is between 532 and 25,000 times cleaner than the Air Quality laws require.

I love it when Damocles kicks arse with science.

There's a thread on ghosts on Off Topic which you'd enjoy, Dammers....

 

[perpetualprism]

it depends how many beers you have had how unhealthy it would be to stand next to you.

Thank you for saving me the job of making this response. I have no choice in whether or not some drunk pillock decides to come & twat me in the face, or to get in his car and potentially run me over if he's been "drinking inconsiderately". In this sense, he is just as much of a potential health risk to me as the "inconsiderate smokers" are to you! I have a bit of experience around this mate, so don't tell me that drinking doesn't potentially affect other peoples health!

So I'll ask you again, if this is about your health, and not just a crusade against freedom of choice, why couldn't the law have been drafted to allow for smoking withing designated sections of the stadium "bowl"?

even more so in fact because i pissed up guy is an immediate threat. i could be stood next to you for 10 secs and you could turn round and but me or something.
you have to stand next to me for quite a long time over consecutive weeks for the second hand smoke to case any damage to your lungs. think about al the shit you are breathing in just walking through and from the car park to the ground?

 

[Damocles]

You just believe anything the media tells you really, don't you?

Here's the science:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9992" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp ... &p_id=9992</a>

That's actually the raw data as well, so you can draw your own conclusions from it. The air quality on smoking flights is between 532 and 25,000 times cleaner than the Air Quality laws require.

you shouldn't believe the first bit of info you find on google.
check this shit out-

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cabinair/ventilation.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cabina ... lation.pdf</a>

Umm...that actually supports what I'm saying?
Page 10, paragraph on the left "In a DOT study....", all the way through to the end of the section says exactly this. That was the exact study that I posted above, and the CO limit compared to the danger limit was between 532 and 25,000 times below it.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

All anti-smokers are wankers who love to cough loudly and whinge, pretending it affects them.

And I don't smoke but I know plenty of them.

 

[perpetualprism]

If you stand there having a cigarette and i am inhaling YOUR DIRTY smoke, that is very unhealthy, i may as well be smoking myself.

You really didn't read the data in my last post did you?

Unless you stand next to a smoker for a significant amount of time in your life, passive smoking will not effect you. Also, the chemical makeup of primary and secondary smoke are so different that it makes your last sentence ignorant beyond belief.
Using your logic, I just need to swim next to a submarine and I should be able to breathe underwater.

Damocles you c=nt i was going to say that before you! lol

read my boeing pdf.

 

[perpetualprism]

you shouldn't believe the first bit of info you find on google.
check this shit out-

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cabinair/ventilation.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cabina ... lation.pdf</a>

Umm...that actually supports what I'm saying?
Page 10, paragraph on the left "In a DOT study....", all the way through to the end of the section says exactly this. That was the exact study that I posted above, and the CO limit compared to the danger limit was between 532 and 25,000 times below it.

ha ha ha!

 

[Damocles]

You just believe anything the media tells you really, don't you?

Here's the science:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9992" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp ... &p_id=9992</a>

That's actually the raw data as well, so you can draw your own conclusions from it. The air quality on smoking flights is between 532 and 25,000 times cleaner than the Air Quality laws require.

I love it when Damocles kicks arse with science.

There's a thread on ghosts on Off Topic which you'd enjoy, Dammers....

I'll be right there.