so i'll ask again........

strongbowholic said:
I don't think the agenda is 'anti City', I think whoever was in our position - Villa, Everton etc - would be on the receiving end of similar. I think it's more a case of protectionism for United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, establishment snobbery (nouveau riche, arrivistes etc) and an element of racism.

We're just going to have to soldier on though it all and hope our quality eventually tells. Bloody hard work though and I still feel the same as I did last night.

I don't feel any sense of injustice at not beating Everton, my ire is directed solely at incompetent officials.

I think you may be right, last night Cole was hacking Dyer relentlessly last night. It took 5 bad challenges for the first yellow. And then 6 mins of extra time for an uneventfull 2nd half.
 
It will never happen but there has to be a huge review of how the rules are enforced in football.

It is getting past the point of being a joke.

The Kompany yellow card summed it up for me last night, soft tackle and the ref was straight in his pocket. Why? Because Vinny spoke out about inconsistent decisions by refs after his ban? Who knows but for me Walton was very quickly in his pocket to book our captain!
 
itsnevereasy said:
It will never happen but there has to be a huge review of how the rules are enforced in football.

It is getting past the point of being a joke.

The Kompany yellow card summed it up for me last night, soft tackle and the ref was straight in his pocket. Why? Because Vinny spoke out about inconsistent decisions by refs after his ban? Who knows but for me Walton was very quickly in his pocket to book our captain!
I thought he booked him early so that he could book him again and send him off without Vincent having to do anything particularly bad and still miss 5 games.
 
Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:
itsnevereasy said:
It will never happen but there has to be a huge review of how the rules are enforced in football.

It is getting past the point of being a joke.

The Kompany yellow card summed it up for me last night, soft tackle and the ref was straight in his pocket. Why? Because Vinny spoke out about inconsistent decisions by refs after his ban? Who knows but for me Walton was very quickly in his pocket to book our captain!
I thought he booked him early so that he could book him again and send him off without Vincent having to do anything particularly bad and still miss 5 games.

I viewed more as Walton trying to make a point to Vinny that if you fuck with us (refs / FA) we will fuck you! I could just be paranoid tho.
 
Graceyboy said:
inchy14 said:
I'm not sure if there is an FA agenda, i certainly hope not, but there is definitely a Sky/media one as proved by Tyler's comment after Kompany was booked and Hart had been fouled by Everton's Argentinian striker and was fuming, " a moral victory for Everton here".

What the fuck does that mean, Hart was justified to be pissed off as he was getting kicked after being barged to the floor and Vincent had every right to be pissed off after commiting one innocuous challenge and getting booked for it.

I went mental when I heard that. What the fcuk does that mean. That it is moral for a team to kick your apponents up and down because they are more skillfull than you are? It might of been different players last night but it was same old Everton. Dispicable team and manager. I hate them more than liverpool.

I think I might email Tyler and ask for an explanation to his comment. His whole commentary was just anti City. If you are not partial to a particular team, thats ok, we are all in that boat, but if you are doing a professional job, you have to leave that dislike at home.

I will cite Gary Neville as being the best example of being able to do that. We all hate/have hated Ratface, but I have to admit, he is defo thee best TV pundit/commentator around bar none. He is very fair, and is critical when it needs it.

Tyler just fills his time with shite snide digs and statements.
Its his little quips of urging opponents on when they get near our box, and typical commentators curse comments like

"if they could just get a goal here it would be a good time"

and

"Have city done enough to see this one out or is there time for xxx to get back into it?

next minute "BANG" the other team scores

TIME after TIME after TIME

When we are behind or drawing, he never once mentions if we can "sneak a goal" its all "XXX are doing a great job keeping city at bay" or "it doesnt look like theres a way through for city"

Very subtle ways of using positive and negative phrases in different arreas of the pitch for or against a certain side.

I have come to despise all TV commentators as none of them actually comment on the game anymore. They have no tactical nowse, they don't analyse what teams tactics are and whether its working or not. No information on what players are doing with the ball, or where on the pitch the play is. I know on TV you are helped by seeing yourself where the ball is, but years ago, even TV commentators whould still describe in more detail where the play is. These days its just shite statistics being bleated out one after the other after the other. IM NOT FUCKING INTERESTED THE LAST TIME NIGEL DE JONG WIPED HIS ARSE, I want to hear incisive regale of WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING ON THE PITCH. No digs at either team with references to external matters off the pitch that have no relevance to either side. Just plain and simple COMMENT on what is happening.
Radio commentary is far more informative generally ( I will exclude a certain cnut Green from this though). I know some don't like him for his squeaky voice or the fact he's got a fit missus, but Sam Matterface is actually quite a good informative Commentator. I always have a goods minds eye of the game when listening to his commentary.

To sum it up














Tyler is a tawt
Why do you need the sound on whilst watching a match on TV? I always watch with the volume on mute. Much more enjoyable :-)
 
I'm beginning to wonder if there is more to this than meets the eye. Do we have any connections to TV Networks that might be in direct competition with SKY for football TV rights ? I think Al Jazeera is Qatari owned but do our owners have any connection that would endanger SKY's future profitability ?
 
stonerblue said:
strongbowholic said:
mat said:
still waiting for the blanket coverage of the high tackle made my assou ekotto last night which the ref missed.....
I wouldn't hold your breath. Shocking tackle that could have ended someone's career.

The silence is fucking deafening.

Sky mustn't have deemed it 'newsworthy'
Arry hasn't said, "He's always doing it'
The redtops can't spell Assou-Ekotto or whatever it is.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7472349/Assou-Ekotto-escapes-action" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... pes-action</a>
Tottenham defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto will face no action over the challenge which forced Franco Di Santo out of Wednesday's win over Wigan.

Spurs were leading 3-0 in the 72nd minute when the Cameroon international full-back caught the Argentine, an incident which left the striker with a large cut on his shin.

The Football Association will not punish Assou-Ekotto retrospectively as Probert spotted the tackle and took no action at the time.


Latics boss Roberto Martinez was fuming following the incident and stated the defender should have been sent off after the full-time whistle.

"We were very fortunate because Franco escaped the tackle with a minor injury and I've seen broken legs from (tackles like) that," stated Martinez.
 
mat said:
stonerblue said:
strongbowholic said:
I wouldn't hold your breath. Shocking tackle that could have ended someone's career.

The silence is fucking deafening.

Sky mustn't have deemed it 'newsworthy'
Arry hasn't said, "He's always doing it'
The redtops can't spell Assou-Ekotto or whatever it is.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7472349/Assou-Ekotto-escapes-action" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... pes-action</a>
Tottenham defender Benoit Assou-Ekotto will face no action over the challenge which forced Franco Di Santo out of Wednesday's win over Wigan.

Spurs were leading 3-0 in the 72nd minute when the Cameroon international full-back caught the Argentine, an incident which left the striker with a large cut on his shin.

The Football Association will not punish Assou-Ekotto retrospectively as Probert spotted the tackle and took no action at the time.


Latics boss Roberto Martinez was fuming following the incident and stated the defender should have been sent off after the full-time whistle.

"We were very fortunate because Franco escaped the tackle with a minor injury and I've seen broken legs from (tackles like) that," stated Martinez.

I went on that link and you know what the first thing i saw was?
A fuckin advert for SKY BET offering odds on FUCKINTOTTENHAMS NEXT GAME with the strap line Ekotto will be available for the huge game against Liverpool.
 
strongbowholic said:
I don't think the agenda is 'anti City', I think whoever was in our position - Villa, Everton etc - would be on the receiving end of similar. I think it's more a case of protectionism for United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, establishment snobbery (nouveau riche, arrivistes etc) and an element of racism.

We're just going to have to soldier on though it all and hope our quality eventually tells. Bloody hard work though and I still feel the same as I did last night.

I don't feel any sense of injustice at not beating Everton, my ire is directed solely at incompetent officials.


For me I think that's nearer the truth, it's almost as if we haven't 'served our time' or 'earned our spurs' yet so don't 'derserve' to go straight in and start winning major honours,(Tottenham may be in a slightly similar position I feel, but nowhere near as bad).

These types of things just seem to irk some people, seems very much like in any place of work where you get the mainstay and original pecking order and all of a sudden, someone new and 'fresh' comes in and starts getting attention, climbing the promotion ladder etc, there's a huge element of resentment, envy and jealousy from the people who have been around in the business or knocking on the door for a while, it happens in all walks of life so I don't see why football should be the only one that has a different attitude to this type of thing.
 
Dirty Harry said:
strongbowholic said:
I don't think the agenda is 'anti City', I think whoever was in our position - Villa, Everton etc - would be on the receiving end of similar. I think it's more a case of protectionism for United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, establishment snobbery (nouveau riche, arrivistes etc) and an element of racism.

We're just going to have to soldier on though it all and hope our quality eventually tells. Bloody hard work though and I still feel the same as I did last night.

I don't feel any sense of injustice at not beating Everton, my ire is directed solely at incompetent officials.


For me I think that's nearer the truth, it's almost as if we haven't 'served our time' or 'earned our spurs' yet so don't 'derserve' to go straight in and start winning major honours,(Tottenham may be in a slightly similar position I feel, but nowhere near as bad).

These types of things just seem to irk some people, seems very much like in any place of work where you get the mainstay and original pecking order and all of a sudden, someone new and 'fresh' comes in and starts getting attention, climbing the promotion ladder etc, there's a huge element of resentment, envy and jealousy from the people who have been around in the business or knocking on the door for a while, it happens in all walks of life so I don't see why football should be the only one that has a different attitude to this type of thing.
Good post.
 

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