Pigeonho said:I can't believe you are being serious, but i'll reply all the same.KenTheLandlord said:Pigeonho said:Explain how there is red in there when what we are talking about is a supposed agenda towards united? We could be talking about Chelsea, Arsenal or Norwich for all I care, but don't make the silly, idiotic mistake of thinking that just because I don't subscribe to the agenda like you and others, it makes me less of a City fan, because that would be really stupid of you and somewhat immature.
-- Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:05 pm --
Ok, so how did they ensure we won it that year then? When Fergie and his troops were 12 points ahead, were they given the message to 'let City win'? Was that why Everton drew 4-4 there? Were we told the opposite, to ensure we win every game to catch them up? Were Newcastle told to make sure under no circumstances that they were to score, and that we were to win? Was Balotelli told to miss his chance in the QPR game, to allow Aguero the moment the entire world, it seemed, watched?
did you not think that 4-4 was odd at the time?
Newcastle could have scored and still lost.
At the start of the match the title was in the balance, that was important. Then as long as we won it wouldn't really matter who got the winner. Panned out very nicely though, dont you think?
4-4 will always be an odd result, I remember Port Vale coming down from 4 nil at Loftus Road about 10 years ago and drawing 4-4, that was odd, but i'm sure there was no pro-Vale conspiracy going on, it was just one of those games. I am sure you will have noticed that every now and then, the PL fixtures throw up weekends of really high scoring games, and others not at all. That too is no conspiracy, it is just one of those strange sets of results that occur, and they are noticeable when they do. One happened the other week. Back to the 4-4 though at OT against Everton, Fellaini was outstanding that day and fucked United up, Everton in that second half were the better team, and they got their result. The funny thing about that result is that many on here said that Moyes, at the time, hated us that much there was no way he would get a result there and that he would 'roll over' for them. They didn't though, they fought for what was a remarkable draw. If you seriously think that is pre-planned, then the players would have to be in on it each and every one. You are also, whilst suggesting that, down playing our own title win as nothing more than a fix, whereas I and many other simply put it down to fighting right until the last second of the season, literally.
It is impossible to rig that.
KenTheLandlord said:Pigeonho said:I can't believe you are being serious, but i'll reply all the same.KenTheLandlord said:did you not think that 4-4 was odd at the time?
Newcastle could have scored and still lost.
At the start of the match the title was in the balance, that was important. Then as long as we won it wouldn't really matter who got the winner. Panned out very nicely though, dont you think?
4-4 will always be an odd result, I remember Port Vale coming down from 4 nil at Loftus Road about 10 years ago and drawing 4-4, that was odd, but i'm sure there was no pro-Vale conspiracy going on, it was just one of those games. I am sure you will have noticed that every now and then, the PL fixtures throw up weekends of really high scoring games, and others not at all. That too is no conspiracy, it is just one of those strange sets of results that occur, and they are noticeable when they do. One happened the other week. Back to the 4-4 though at OT against Everton, Fellaini was outstanding that day and fucked United up, Everton in that second half were the better team, and they got their result. The funny thing about that result is that many on here said that Moyes, at the time, hated us that much there was no way he would get a result there and that he would 'roll over' for them. They didn't though, they fought for what was a remarkable draw. If you seriously think that is pre-planned, then the players would have to be in on it each and every one. You are also, whilst suggesting that, down playing our own title win as nothing more than a fix, whereas I and many other simply put it down to fighting right until the last second of the season, literally.
It is impossible to rig that.
RandomJ said:I can't beleive what I'm reading from some posters here. If you think the Prem League is rigged like WWE then you might as well start wearing a tin foil hat so the government can't read your thoughts. It's just laughable. I think Scudamoes commnets are out of order and he needs to be held accountable for saying stuff like that but maybe some of you need to realise that maybe just maybe the reason the rags won so often is they had a good team and a good manager and not some secret agenda to keep the money rolling in.
Prestwich_Blue said:I'd you're a food manufacturer and you supply the likes of Tesco or Sainsbury, you need to make sure your best selling, flagship products are not just on the shelves but in the right shelves. You want them prominently displayed at arm/eye level not tucked away somewhere on the top or bottom shelf. And you will do all sorts of deals to ensure they are, including paying for that placement.
In the PL, the top four and subsequent entry into the CL are that eye level shelf and the rags are the Coca Cola, Kelloggs Cornflakes or Cadburys Dairy Milk of the PL.
Are you going to adjust your post at the top to include something? The post where you think United 4 4 Everton and Newcastle 0 2 City were rigged?KenTheLandlord said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'd you're a food manufacturer and you supply the likes of Tesco or Sainsbury, you need to make sure your best selling, flagship products are not just on the shelves but in the right shelves. You want them prominently displayed at arm/eye level not tucked away somewhere on the top or bottom shelf. And you will do all sorts of deals to ensure they are, including paying for that placement.
In the PL, the top four and subsequent entry into the CL are that eye level shelf and the rags are the Coca Cola, Kelloggs Cornflakes or Cadburys Dairy Milk of the PL.
correct.
Ok, so how is this rigging being arranged? Who at club level is in on it?KenTheLandlord said:Pigeonho said:I can't believe you are being serious, but i'll reply all the same.KenTheLandlord said:did you not think that 4-4 was odd at the time?
Newcastle could have scored and still lost.
At the start of the match the title was in the balance, that was important. Then as long as we won it wouldn't really matter who got the winner. Panned out very nicely though, dont you think?
4-4 will always be an odd result, I remember Port Vale coming down from 4 nil at Loftus Road about 10 years ago and drawing 4-4, that was odd, but i'm sure there was no pro-Vale conspiracy going on, it was just one of those games. I am sure you will have noticed that every now and then, the PL fixtures throw up weekends of really high scoring games, and others not at all. That too is no conspiracy, it is just one of those strange sets of results that occur, and they are noticeable when they do. One happened the other week. Back to the 4-4 though at OT against Everton, Fellaini was outstanding that day and fucked United up, Everton in that second half were the better team, and they got their result. The funny thing about that result is that many on here said that Moyes, at the time, hated us that much there was no way he would get a result there and that he would 'roll over' for them. They didn't though, they fought for what was a remarkable draw. If you seriously think that is pre-planned, then the players would have to be in on it each and every one. You are also, whilst suggesting that, down playing our own title win as nothing more than a fix, whereas I and many other simply put it down to fighting right until the last second of the season, literally.
It is impossible to rig that.
that didnt need to be the scenario, as i said as long as the title was in the balance on the last day and we won it, the PL had won. He probably couldn't believe his luck.
As for City, why would we be immune?
Pigeonho said:Are you going to adjust your post at the top to include something? The post where you think United 4 4 Everton and Newcastle 0 2 City were rigged?KenTheLandlord said:Prestwich_Blue said:I'd you're a food manufacturer and you supply the likes of Tesco or Sainsbury, you need to make sure your best selling, flagship products are not just on the shelves but in the right shelves. You want them prominently displayed at arm/eye level not tucked away somewhere on the top or bottom shelf. And you will do all sorts of deals to ensure they are, including paying for that placement.
In the PL, the top four and subsequent entry into the CL are that eye level shelf and the rags are the Coca Cola, Kelloggs Cornflakes or Cadburys Dairy Milk of the PL.
correct.
Edit: Scratch that, i've just noticed you have. :-)
-- Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:03 pm --
Ok, so how is this rigging being arranged? Who at club level is in on it?KenTheLandlord said:Pigeonho said:I can't believe you are being serious, but i'll reply all the same.
4-4 will always be an odd result, I remember Port Vale coming down from 4 nil at Loftus Road about 10 years ago and drawing 4-4, that was odd, but i'm sure there was no pro-Vale conspiracy going on, it was just one of those games. I am sure you will have noticed that every now and then, the PL fixtures throw up weekends of really high scoring games, and others not at all. That too is no conspiracy, it is just one of those strange sets of results that occur, and they are noticeable when they do. One happened the other week. Back to the 4-4 though at OT against Everton, Fellaini was outstanding that day and fucked United up, Everton in that second half were the better team, and they got their result. The funny thing about that result is that many on here said that Moyes, at the time, hated us that much there was no way he would get a result there and that he would 'roll over' for them. They didn't though, they fought for what was a remarkable draw. If you seriously think that is pre-planned, then the players would have to be in on it each and every one. You are also, whilst suggesting that, down playing our own title win as nothing more than a fix, whereas I and many other simply put it down to fighting right until the last second of the season, literally.
It is impossible to rig that.
that didnt need to be the scenario, as i said as long as the title was in the balance on the last day and we won it, the PL had won. He probably couldn't believe his luck.
As for City, why would we be immune?
Because they were the 2 defining matches of the season that ensured we were in with a chance of winning the league. You have suggested it was scripted that way. What I want to know is who at club level is in on it all, how are the instructions relayed?KenTheLandlord said:Pigeonho said:Are you going to adjust your post at the top to include something? The post where you think United 4 4 Everton and Newcastle 0 2 City were rigged?KenTheLandlord said:correct.
Edit: Scratch that, i've just noticed you have. :-)
-- Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:03 pm --
Ok, so how is this rigging being arranged? Who at club level is in on it?KenTheLandlord said:that didnt need to be the scenario, as i said as long as the title was in the balance on the last day and we won it, the PL had won. He probably couldn't believe his luck.
As for City, why would we be immune?
You have brought those 2 particular matches up, not me.
Some of the shit thats been typed on here over the last few years is beyond ridiculousRandomJ said:I can't beleive what I'm reading from some posters here. If you think the Prem League is rigged like WWE then you might as well start wearing a tin foil hat so the government can't read your thoughts. It's just laughable. I think Scudamoes commnets are out of order and he needs to be held accountable for saying stuff like that but maybe some of you need to realise that maybe just maybe the reason the rags won so often is they had a good team and a good manager and not some secret agenda to keep the money rolling in.