So then...Scudamoes comments about the premier league..

[Groke]

'There’s lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again,’ he added. ‘But you have to balance that off against putting on a competition.’

That's just an incredible statement surely?

Correct - what exactly needs to be "balanced"?????

 

[Ancient Citizen]

'There’s lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again,’ he added. ‘But you have to balance that off against putting on a competition.’

That's just an incredible statement surely?

It's a fucking disgraceful statement. His first and only responsibility is putting on a fair and just competition decided by merit, there is no 'balancing' to be done with populist opinion in south east asia or Africa, that's absolutely fuck all to do with him. If I walked into an investigation in my job and told someone I had to balance off whether somebody had committed fraud or not with how popular they were I wouldn't have a job and neither should he.

It certainly is fucking disgraceful. It is not in his remit to be worrying about the loss of interest in all things Rag in Singapore and Kenya. There are a fucking sight more 'Fans around the world' than Rag fans, who are relishing what's happening, and if he's only trying to gain favourable PR for the FA he should be focussing his attentions on them.

 

[BigJoe#1]

This proves beyond all reasonable doubt that there is and has been a pro-United agenda.

Seriously I believe the police should be investigating thus and all the facts and evidence we have witnessed over the last decade plus.

Footballers betting -fucking chicken feed in relation to this. I am fucking livid!

The last decade you say? They have won 5 of the available 10 league titles in that time. Should the police skip the other 5?

No because they have finished runners up each time.

Surely now you can see that it has always been the Premierships priority to keep them at the top. Some of the decisions have been absolutely shocking. I know other clubs have benefitted from such decisions (us included) but if you were to do an analysis I of the benefactors of poor refereeing we all know who would be top.

The amount of blatant fouls that have gone unpunished

The amount of dubious penalties that have been awarded

The amount of blatant penalties that have been denied

The number of times they have verbally abused referees and gotten away with it.

Scudamores comment suddenly crystallise the situation. If you cannot see that fair enough but I think the majority of the footballing nation outside Manchester can.

 

[Pigeonho]

This proves beyond all reasonable doubt that there is and has been a pro-United agenda.

Seriously I believe the police should be investigating thus and all the facts and evidence we have witnessed over the last decade plus.

Footballers betting -fucking chicken feed in relation to this. I am fucking livid!

The last decade you say? They have won 5 of the available 10 league titles in that time. Should the police skip the other 5?

No because they have finished runners up each time.

Surely now you can see that it has always been the Premierships priority to keep them at the top. Some of the decisions have been absolutely shocking. I know other clubs have benefitted from such decisions (us included) but if you were to do an analysis I of the benefactors of poor refereeing we all know who would be top.

The amount of blatant fouls that have gone unpunished

The amount of dubious penalties that have been awarded

The amount of blatant penalties that have been denied

The number of times they have verbally abused referees and gotten away with it.

Scudamores comment suddenly crystallise the situation. If you cannot see that fair enough but I think the majority of the footballing nation outside Manchester can.

Runners up? What do they win?
And you've said it yourself, other clubs get the rub of the green too.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Pidge it is there in black and white from the Chief Executive of the Premier League. What do you think he is saying?

 

[BigJoe#1]

The last decade you say? They have won 5 of the available 10 league titles in that time. Should the police skip the other 5?

No because they have finished runners up each time.

Surely now you can see that it has always been the Premierships priority to keep them at the top. Some of the decisions have been absolutely shocking. I know other clubs have benefitted from such decisions (us included) but if you were to do an analysis I of the benefactors of poor refereeing we all know who would be top.

The amount of blatant fouls that have gone unpunished

The amount of dubious penalties that have been awarded

The amount of blatant penalties that have been denied

The number of times they have verbally abused referees and gotten away with it.

Scudamores comment suddenly crystallise the situation. If you cannot see that fair enough but I think the majority of the footballing nation outside Manchester can.

Runners up? What do they win?
And you've said it yourself, other clubs get the rub of the green too.

Pidge, I respect and appreciate your posts and the fact that sometimes I don't agree with you. However, if your going to quote please quote the whole sentence.

1. First or second in the league is success for Any team, 7th isn't.

2. All teams do get strange decisions but like I said, do an analysis and I'm sure you will find on the categories listed Manchester United would be miles ahead of the nearest rivals, almost to the point that they would be greater than the sum of the rest of the teams.

But if you think it's fair and above board and the Premiership has no interest in keeping them toward the top then I disagree.

 

[Pigeonho]

Pidge it is there in black and white from the Chief Executive of the Premier League. What do you think he is saying?

I have seen the article and it is a silly thing to say, but it doesn't prove anything has gone on. Let's not make the mistake of thinking united haven't had squads capable of winning titles, and more importantly the manager to do it. The fact they have the same squad but not the same manager now and find themselves a laughing stock suggests ferguson is responsible for those titles. It's not like they have had 20 years worth of average players but have somehow win the league 13 times. They've deserved the titles they've won just like arsenal, Blackburn, Chelsea and us have. If there was a bias to ensure united were kept top each year, then the trophy woukd simply only have their name on it since it's inception, or let me guess, others have been allowed to win it so it's not too obvious?

 

[Rodney]

What we suspected all along

Manchester United troubles 'affect Premier League brand'

Manchester United's troubled defence of their Premier League title is harming the English top flight's worldwide brand, says the competition's chief executive Richard Scudamore.

Under new boss David Moyes, United are seventh in a disappointing campaign.

The 20-time champions are 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea.

"It's a double-edged sword," said Scudamore. "When your most popular club isn't doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places."

Former Everton manager Moyes has watched the Red Devils suffer 10 defeats in 31 league matches since he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired last summer after almost 27 years in charge.

His team were knocked out of the FA Cup at the third-round stage before being eliminated from the Capital One Cup in the semi-finals.

They have reached the Champions League quarter-finals, where they will face defending champions Bayern Munich next month.

"There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again," Scudamore told Bloomberg.

"But you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete."

Overseas television deals will earn the Premier League more than £2bn between 2013 and 2016.

The Premier League sold its domestic broadcasting rights to Sky and BT in a record-breaking deal, worth around £3bn, last year.

 

[Pigeonho]

No because they have finished runners up each time.

Surely now you can see that it has always been the Premierships priority to keep them at the top. Some of the decisions have been absolutely shocking. I know other clubs have benefitted from such decisions (us included) but if you were to do an analysis I of the benefactors of poor refereeing we all know who would be top.

The amount of blatant fouls that have gone unpunished

The amount of dubious penalties that have been awarded

The amount of blatant penalties that have been denied

The number of times they have verbally abused referees and gotten away with it.

Scudamores comment suddenly crystallise the situation. If you cannot see that fair enough but I think the majority of the footballing nation outside Manchester can.

Runners up? What do they win?
And you've said it yourself, other clubs get the rub of the green too.

Pidge, I respect and appreciate your posts and the fact that sometimes I don't agree with you. However, if your going to quote please quote the whole sentence.

1. First or second in the league is success for Any team, 7th isn't.

2. All teams do get strange decisions but like I said, do an analysis and I'm sure you will find on the categories listed Manchester United would be miles ahead of the nearest rivals, almost to the point that they would be greater than the sum of the rest of the teams.

But if you think it's fair and above board and the Premiership has no interest in keeping them toward the top then I disagree.

So why have they been 'allowed' to slip to 7th this year then? Have they screwed up the agenda transcript or, as I suspect, is it simply because they have a shit manager now in comparison to the one they had the last 25 years? And second in the league isn't success, not if recognition is the name of the agenda. Those 5 other titles in that decade, people will only remember the winners of it, not who came second. Simple football came into it those other 5 titles, i.e. better teams won it.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Pidge it is there in black and white from the Chief Executive of the Premier League. What do you think he is saying?

I have seen the article and it is a silly thing to say, but it doesn't prove anything has gone on. Let's not make the mistake of thinking united haven't had squads capable of winning titles, and more importantly the manager to do it. The fact they have the same squad but not the same manager now and find themselves a laughing stock suggests ferguson is responsible for those titles. It's not like they have had 20 years worth of average players but have somehow win the league 13 times. They've deserved the titles they've won just like arsenal, Blackburn, Chelsea and us have. If there was a bias to ensure united were kept top each year, then the trophy woukd simply only have their name on it since it's inception, or let me guess, others have been allowed to win it so it's not too obvious?

To dismiss it as 'silly' is naive. There is nothing 'silly' about it. It is sinister and it comes from the Chief Executive of the Premier League. Exactly how it has all affected the Premier League years I don't know but I think people are right to be suspicious about it.