so this agenda thing.

[aguero93:20]

Remarkable

Countdown to kick-off: Chelsea look strong and are many people's favourites to win the title

Terry lifting trophies he didn't win again.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2705294/Premier-League-transfer-window-2014-What-state-YOUR-club-ahead-new-season-Sportsmail-assesses-sides-summer-business-ahead-big-kick-off.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... k-off.html</a>

 

[SilverFox2]

Do you think that the skewed emphasis on others is more prevalent at this time of the year simply because there are no real games to report ?

During the League season the results and the reality of action are the focal points whereas now they struggle to sell football except via transfer news and the Fantasy Football / Promotional stuff currently being played so they focus more emphatically on their majority circulation targets.

Possibly, yes.

Rag acolytes can afford to be cock-a-hoop at the moment while they are fuelled by hope. Same as last season. Things went distinctly quieter once they got a string of shite performances under their belts. They'll fare better for longer this year but reality will dawn eventually.

Remember the days when blind optimism was all we had to comfort us?

Do I Remember them ? How can I forget them.
We like to think of the dark days as 'character forming' but in my case for the last 25 years it has left me unable to watch any live match that City are involved (including TV viewing) with my yearly season ticket a dim and distant memory.

Monday mornings allow me to watch the recordings of City games with a more rational perception.

Amazing how personally we feel about them and the frustration we feel when we see the indifference some of the stars can sometimes display.

 

[@BluePhil8]

Love that picture.

Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, (7th placed) United, Chelsea again holding our trophy which they haven't won since 09/10.

Some publications like the Mail have never liked us, with the exception of a few journalist like Samuels who has some integrity. Now we have plugged all the leaks and got rid of Balotelli, Cook and Tevez it seems they will just airbrush us from history.

Oh well, they are all cock sucking **** rats. Can't wait to win more trophies over the coming years.

 

[Bill]

and yet some people think its a coincidence.

 

[squirtyflower]

and yet some people think its a coincidence.

Maybe they had run out of blue ink
Maybe they had only room for four clubs
Maybe anyone out of the top four was excluded
Maybe we are too far north
Maybe there was a four page spread on City we haven't seen


Maybe they're all cunts?

 

[Len Rum]

Remarkable

Countdown to kick-off: Chelsea look strong and are many people's favourites to win the title

Terry lifting trophies he didn't win again.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2705294/Premier-League-transfer-window-2014-What-state-YOUR-club-ahead-new-season-Sportsmail-assesses-sides-summer-business-ahead-big-kick-off.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... k-off.html</a>

Do I not believe that.
Mind you I shouldn't be surprised.
Got the Daily Mirror today:
Double page spread - United in the USA under the title'Heir Raising' and 'Giggs: Van Gaal has the same aura as Fergie and demands respect just like my old boss'".............. Then on the next page
Single page spread - Liverpool on Tour' headed 'Rodgers: Philippe is the brain that makes Reds tick'
Imagine my surprise when I couldn't find a prominent 'City in the USA' article, but then In the corner of my eye I spotted the word City, here at least is something I thought but oh dear a tiny article with a small photo of Pellers looking as if he's just got out of bed, a tiny picture of Mangala looking unhappy and the headline 'City caught in Web of Deceit' regarding the Mangala video being pulled from the City website.
Now I have become Mr Angry so I need a media apologist from the forum on this thread right here right now!

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces on here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

 

[squirtyflower]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces on here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-139" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-139</a>

I don't give two fucks about 'real' rags, without having to spend a moment's breath over the plastic cunts on there

 

[Len Rum]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces on here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

Blue - can I assume you are the media apologist I asked for ? If so thank you for coming on so I can have an argument (sorry reasoned debate) with another member.
So I've read the shit from the Rag cafe on the link you posted - it really says nothing other than they think we are not and never will be as big a club as them and therefore don't deserve the favourable propaganda they get in the media.
You always tend to talk in general terms regarding perceived bias in the media. Can I ask to comment specifically on the photo today in the Mail and articles in the Mirror. What is your view on these? Do you consider them balanced and fair reporting? I await your reply with keen anticipation.

 

[George Hannah]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces on here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

Blue - can I assume you are the media apologist I asked for ? If so thank you for coming on so I can have an argument (sorry reasoned debate) with another member.
So I've read the shit from the Rag cafe on the link you posted - it really says nothing other than they think we are not and never will be as big a club as them and therefore don't deserve the favourable propaganda they get in the media.
You always tend to talk in general terms regarding perceived bias in the media. Can I ask to comment specifically on the photo today in the Mail and articles in the Mirror. What is your view on these? Do you consider them balanced and fair reporting? I await your reply with keen anticipation.

Poor Dismal. he used to be so reliable. A life animated by belief in the simple truth that all his opinions were correct - crushed by the agenda.

 

[Dunne's own goal]

SSN has not tweeted anything about champions MCFC today OR yesterday but have mentioned other english clubs many times. #Agenda #Proof

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces on here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

Blue - can I assume you are the media apologist I asked for ? If so thank you for coming on so I can have an argument (sorry reasoned debate) with another member.
So I've read the shit from the Rag cafe on the link you posted - it really says nothing other than they think we are not and never will be as big a club as them and therefore don't deserve the favourable propaganda they get in the media.
You always tend to talk in general terms regarding perceived bias in the media. Can I ask to comment specifically on the photo today in the Mail and articles in the Mirror. What is your view on these? Do you consider them balanced and fair reporting? I await your reply with keen anticipation.

What picture?

 

[aguero93:20]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces in the tiny little minds of these are imbeciles

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

You need to spend less time on there mate :)

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces in the tiny little minds of these are imbeciles

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

You need to spend less time on there mate :)

Do I?

 

[aguero93:20]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces in the tiny little minds of these are imbeciles

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

You need to spend less time on there mate :)

Do I?

If you're attaching that much weight to the opinions of the posters on there then in my opinion yes.

 

[franksinatra]

Just to let you know, you're all being ripped to pieces on here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon-goes-into-meltdown.287034/page-140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/threads/bluemoon ... 4/page-140</a>

Blue - can I assume you are the media apologist I asked for ? If so thank you for coming on so I can have an argument (sorry reasoned debate) with another member.
So I've read the shit from the Rag cafe on the link you posted - it really says nothing other than they think we are not and never will be as big a club as them and therefore don't deserve the favourable propaganda they get in the media.
You always tend to talk in general terms regarding perceived bias in the media. Can I ask to comment specifically on the photo today in the Mail and articles in the Mirror. What is your view on these? Do you consider them balanced and fair reporting? I await your reply with keen anticipation.

What picture?

I believe the Daily Mail article does prove an agenda in relation to Manchester City.

Here are my reasons why?

Premier league kicks off in three weeks time as Manchester City look to defend their crown.

First significant line of the article they cannot wait to mention we are the Champions.

Signing Sagna on a free transfer from Arsenal proves City continue to have a great amount of pulling power over their rivals.

The Daily mail could not wait to highlight the fact we have more pulling power than our rivals and can take their players

Here is the conclusive proof and I quote:

Luckily the Yaya Toure saga appears to have come to an end and the midfielder will be staying in the north west.

Why is it lucky Daily Mail? Why is it lucky that Manchester City have kept one of the best midfielders in the world? Unless you wanted City to win the league again. There is the proof. The daily Mail are Manchester City fans.

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

You need to spend less time on there mate :)

Do I?

If you're attaching that much weight to the opinions of the posters on there then in my opinion yes.

Don't the opinions of Red Cafe posters have the same weight as the opinions of posters on here?

 

[bluesoup]

Being ripped to pieces. Lol. The only thing united have at the moment is their history and a rather massaged figure for their fan base.

Whilst the glaziers are in ownership they will befall the same fate as Liverpool - by resting on their prestige and fame for their core business and commercial activity. Not knocking their standing in the game but we all know it was based on a rich mans investment, vision and clever business plan decades ago.

They are still in denial that all good things come to an end and it is there time to step aside, just like city did in the late 70's.

Let them mock and laugh but WE will have the last laugh...

 

[Blue Is the Opposite of Blue]

They are still in denial that all good things come to an end and it is there time to step aside, just like city did in the late 70's.

Let them mock and laugh but WE will have the last laugh...

We've been saying that since the takeover and it still hasn't happened. Sure, last season was a terrible one for United, but they aren't just going to fade into nothing. Last season may yet be the best thing to happen to United in the long-term: it exposed their ageing squad (Giggs, Evra, Vidic and Ferdinand are all gone now), it made an example of their deadwood (Anderson, Cleverley, Young) and also showed that Ferguson should stay out of managerial appointments from now on.

The rebuild they're embarking on will take time, but they're not just going to "step aside". Say they get hold of Vidal this summer - is that United stepping aside? I don't think so. Even without Vidal they've still got a squad together which is slightly better than Arsenal, Everton and, if they go far in Europe, Liverpool too. They're not going to win the title this year, or even for the next three years, but this is the most optimistic United have been for some time. During the end of Ferguson's reign they were winning things but were fearful of what post-Ferguson would bring, and Moyes confirmed those fears.

At least with Van Gaal there's a sense that things can't go as terribly as they did last season. They've got two potentially brilliant youngsters in their side (Shaw, Januzaj), they still have one of the best forward lines in the Premier League, and if they can sort out their lack of depth at the back they should be good to go. They'll need another year for the likes of Fletcher, Cleverley and Anderson to be replaced, and it seems that Jones and Smalling aren't ever fit enough to get a run in the side, but these aren't ingredients for a team willing to "step aside".

It's wishful thinking if you think United are going anywhere. Personally I relish the challenge they're going to bring this season, we're going to beat them in both derby matches again but it won't be as easy for sides like Liverpool, Everton & Chelsea to take 4 and 6 points off them again. United are a new player again, they're not stepping aside. United haven't done stepping aside for 20 years.

 

[George Hannah]

They are still in denial that all good things come to an end and it is there time to step aside, just like city did in the late 70's.

Let them mock and laugh but WE will have the last laugh...

We've been saying that since the takeover and it still hasn't happened. Sure, last season was a terrible one for United, but they aren't just going to fade into nothing. Last season may yet be the best thing to happen to United in the long-term: it exposed their ageing squad (Giggs, Evra, Vidic and Ferdinand are all gone now), it made an example of their deadwood (Anderson, Cleverley, Young) and also showed that Ferguson should stay out of managerial appointments from now on.

The rebuild they're embarking on will take time, but they're not just going to "step aside". Say they get hold of Vidal this summer - is that United stepping aside? I don't think so. Even without Vidal they've still got a squad together which is slightly better than Arsenal, Everton and, if they go far in Europe, Liverpool too. They're not going to win the title this year, or even for the next three years, but this is the most optimistic United have been for some time. During the end of Ferguson's reign they were winning things but were fearful of what post-Ferguson would bring, and Moyes confirmed those fears.

At least with Van Gaal there's a sense that things can't go as terribly as they did last season. They've got two potentially brilliant youngsters in their side (Shaw, Januzaj), they still have one of the best forward lines in the Premier League, and if they can sort out their lack of depth at the back they should be good to go. They'll need another year for the likes of Fletcher, Cleverley and Anderson to be replaced, and it seems that Jones and Smalling aren't ever fit enough to get a run in the side, but these aren't ingredients for a team willing to "step aside".

It's wishful thinking if you think United are going anywhere. Personally I relish the challenge they're going to bring this season, we're going to beat them in both derby matches again but it won't be as easy for sides like Liverpool, Everton & Chelsea to take 4 and 6 points off them again. United are a new player again, they're not stepping aside. United haven't done stepping aside for 20 years.

I think you probably feel quite at home in the rouge bistro then